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-King- 06-27-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5867509)
We will see how Cassel does without Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Ben Watson, that offensive line, and Josh McDaniels.

Nobody on the Chiefs offense would start on the Patriots. I'm not knocking the Chiefs, its just that the Patriots are loaded.

Besides Cutler, there is nobody on Chicago's offense that would start for Denver.

Forte would.

And NE's O-line was terrible last year. They allowed 47 sacks and got Tom Brady on the IR.

And yeah Randy and Wes helped Cassel, but the majority of his throws were throws that any decent WR should catch. He didnt really take advantage of Moss's height and jumping ability. He made throws that would have worked had he had the Chiefs WRs, Raiders WRs, and even the Raiders WRs.

Smed1065 06-27-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5867509)
We will see how Cassel does without Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Ben Watson, that offensive line, and Josh McDaniels.

Nobody on the Chiefs offense would start on the Patriots. I'm not knocking the Chiefs, its just that the Patriots are loaded.

Besides Cutler, there is nobody on Chicago's offense that would start for Denver.

LOL

:eek:

Quesadilla Joe 06-27-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5867551)
Forte would.

And NE's O-line was terrible last year. They allowed 47 sacks and got Tom Brady on the IR.

And yeah Randy and Wes helped Cassel, but the majority of his throws were throws that any decent WR should catch. He didnt really take advantage of Moss's height and jumping ability. He made throws that would have worked had he had the Chiefs WRs, Raiders WRs, and even the Raiders WRs.

You might want to check this out, in regards to Cassel... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5755411 and http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-cit...as-City-Chiefs

I doubt Forte would start over Knowshon. Forte averaged less than 4 yards per carry last year.

Smed1065 06-27-2009 03:23 PM

Homer much?

chiefzilla1501 06-27-2009 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5867502)
I think Kyle Orton is no worse than Matt Cassel. He is better than Jamarcus Russell, Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, Brady Quinn, David Garrard, Byron Leftwich, Josh Freeman, Daunte Culpepper, Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Kellen Clemens,Jason Campbell, and Sage Rosenfells.

I think after this season he will be considered one of the 10-15 best QB's in the league.

Quit while you're ahead.

Brady, Palmer, Peyton, Brees, Warner
Hasselbeck, Rivers, Roethlisberger, McNabb, Matt Ryan
Eli, Rodgers, Pennington, Cutler, Romo

He's not top 15 nor will he be by season's end. But it will be fun to hear you feebly argue who he's better than on that list.

I will grant you that the Broncos aren't the worst. I think Tampa wins that easily.

chiefzilla1501 06-27-2009 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5867558)
You might want to check this out, in regards to Cassel... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5755411 and http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-cit...as-City-Chiefs

I doubt Forte would start over Knowshon. Forte averaged less than 4 yards per carry last year.

Forte had the 3rd most yards from scrimmage. The only 2 above him were Adrian Peterson and Michael Turner (barely).

Glad you're on top of things.

L.A. Chieffan 06-27-2009 03:33 PM

pretty lame idea for a list.

Quesadilla Joe 06-27-2009 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5867579)
Forte had the 3rd most yards from scrimmage. The only 2 above him were Adrian Peterson and Michael Turner (barely).

Glad you're on top of things.

So you think 3.9 yards per carry as good?

I guarantee Knowshon Moreno will average at least 5.0 yards per carry this year.

Pablo 06-27-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5867601)
So you think 3.9 yards per carry as good?

I guarantee Knowshon Moreno will average at least 5.0 yards per carry this year.

Is this guy ****ing serious with this shit?

At least 5 ypc????

And Neckbeard is as good as Cassel..I thought we had some dumb-as-**** homers on this board, but you're on another level.

Bweb 06-27-2009 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5867502)
I think Kyle Orton is no worse than Matt Cassel. He is better than Jamarcus Russell, Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, Brady Quinn, David Garrard, Byron Leftwich, Josh Freeman, Daunte Culpepper, Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Kellen Clemens,Jason Campbell, and Sage Rosenfells.

I think after this season he will be considered one of the 10-15 best QB's in the league.

:spock: NOT This!

Quesadilla Joe 06-27-2009 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 5867611)
Is this guy ****ing serious with this shit?

At least 5 ypc????

And Neckbeard is as good as Cassel..I thought we had some dumb-as-**** homers on this board, but you're on another level.

Selvin Young averaged 5.0 yards per carry for us the last 2 years and he was undrafted.

Peyton Hillis averaged 5.0 yards per carry for us last year and was a 7th round pick drafted to be a FB.

Tatum Bell averaged 5.7 yards per carry last year and we picked him up out of a cell phone shop midseason.

P.J. Pope was on our practice squad all season and averaged 7.6 yards per carry for us last year in three games.

Ryan Torrain broke his elbow in Training camp and the first game he played for Denver he averaged 5.7 yards per carry.

Knowshon is better than all of those guys and he played in the zone blocking scheme in college. He fits in perfectly here.

chiefzilla1501 06-27-2009 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5867601)
So you think 3.9 yards per carry as good?

I guarantee Knowshon Moreno will average at least 5.0 yards per carry this year.

Oh yeah. I forgot about how the almighty YPC is the only statistic that matters. LT averaged 3.8 yards per carry. Brian Westbrook only averaged 4.0 yards per carry. What a bunch of chumps. You should be proud that you have three RBs, Peyton Hillis, Tatum Bell, AND Selvin Young who are better than LT and Westbrook! You guys are SO good. Just as I'm so excited that the Chiefs have a RB in Jamaal Charles, whose 5.3 YPC are better than most of the league too. Hell, those 4 RBs have better YPCs than 90% of the top 10 RBs in the league. Who knew that the AFC West (Denver and KC) were so loaded with RB talent.

Forte also had 63 receptions for 477 yards, which is one of the best among RBs. And oh, by the way, that tells you a lot about who Orton was relying on for a lot of his pass completions.

But by your argument, apparently Forte is better than LT, and Hillis/Charles/Bell/Young are too.

Red Dawg 06-27-2009 04:48 PM

I hate Denver as much as the next Chiefs fan I am laughing at their off season as well but putting them last on that list is plain idiotic. I'd say the Vikes are the worst for sure.

BigRock 06-27-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5867699)
Knowshon is better than all of those guys and he played in the zone blocking scheme in college. He fits in perfectly here.

Didn't McDaniels say a month or two back that he was going to phase out the zone blocking scheme and run more of what he's used to?

Mile High Mania 06-27-2009 05:01 PM

Much like you guys, I ignore polls that don't make my team look good...

Anyway, Denver's trio ranked 32? Whatever...


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