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Bane 09-28-2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 6120634)
The Ghosts of Lombardi, Bill Walsh and Papa Bear Halas combined into one super soul couldnt do shit with this team.

Its sad to say but I believe that!
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The Bad Guy 09-28-2009 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6120617)
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

We're led into believing this team is gonna turn it around. The way they sell themselves to the fans leading them into believing that what they are doing is "the right way" when clearly its not. it just leads to the same old, losses. As a fan you expect to see good things , you're hoping that it'll turn around but it doesn't.

You know the way they operate is not gonna build a winner, but yet you expect a winner. They do the same thing, leading you to believe it is right, and you expect and hope for a winner. That's insanity my friend.

Bunch of ****n a**holes they are.

How do you know this? You say you're no psychic, but you certainly are presenting yourself as having all the facts when we are 3 games into the first year of the new regime.

Do I think Pioli is going to build a consistent winner? Who the hell knows. His moves didn't thrill me this off-season, but I'd rather take a year to evaluate an entire operation than to blow money needlessly. But there were few free agents that were going to bridge the talent gap we had going into this season.

You can be mad he didn't address things, but saying that we will never be good, it's the same old shit, is complete and utter nonsense.

There is nothing about this season that reminds of me of a Carl Peterson team.

Are we terrible? Yes. But I really think some would rather just be 8-8 with a few free agent additions than really weeding through this roster.

If Pioli sucks in a year and 4 months from now, you can say it's much the same, but it sounds like you expected Pioli to fix the mistakes made over an entire decade over one off-season. Not possible.

DeezNutz 09-28-2009 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6120641)
There is nothing about this season that reminds of me of a Carl Peterson team.

The major off-season acquisition, another team's backup QB, isn't vintage Carl?

SAUTO 09-28-2009 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6120641)

If Pioli sucks in a year and 4 months from now
, you can say it's much the same, but it sounds like you expected Pioli to fix the mistakes made over an entire decade over one off-season. Not possible.

i agree with you here, same could be said for haley and cassel also

The Bad Guy 09-28-2009 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6120644)
The major off-season acquisition, another team's backup QB, isn't vintage Carl?

It is, but Carl would have traded for Cassel when he was 32.

TEX 09-28-2009 05:14 PM

If Pioli sucks in a year and 4 months from now, you can say it's much the same, but it sounds like you expected Pioli to fix the mistakes made over an entire decade over one off-season. Not possible.
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No. But I DID expect the new GM to see the shit we had on the OL and make more of an attempt to FIX that - especially when you consider that said new GM was planning on getting himself his QB. That is NOT too much to expect in his first offseason. He FAILED test # 1.

MahiMike 09-28-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefs1111 (Post 6120558)
Dick V and his shitty drafting is as much too blame as anything else. I think his drafts are worse then Herms

He was truly a couple players away from winning it all. That's the way it works in free agency. You ride the wave to the top and then re-build.

DeezNutz 09-28-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6120656)
It is, but Carl would have traded for Cassel when he was 32.

I won't argue this point. LMAO

|Zach| 09-28-2009 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 6120669)
He was truly a couple players away from winning it all. That's the way it works in free agency. You ride the wave to the top and then re-build.

Yea a couple players...like 11 on defense.

The Bad Guy 09-28-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 6120667)
If Pioli sucks in a year and 4 months from now, you can say it's much the same, but it sounds like you expected Pioli to fix the mistakes made over an entire decade over one off-season. Not possible.
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No. But I DID expect the new GM to see the shit we had on the OL and make more of an attempt to FIX that - especially when you consider that said new GM was planning on getting himself his QB. That is NOT too much to expect in his first offseason. He FAILED test # 1.

I can agree with that.

Simplex3 09-28-2009 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 6120667)
No. But I DID expect the new GM to see the shit we had on the OL and make more of an attempt to FIX that - especially when you consider that said new GM was planning on getting himself his QB. That is NOT too much to expect in his first offseason. He FAILED test # 1.

Yeah, it wasn't like there were any other holes that needed to be fixed.

Brock 09-28-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 6120669)
He was truly a couple players away from winning it all. That's the way it works in free agency. You ride the wave to the top and then re-build.

ROFL Notice DICK didn't stick around to clean this mess up.

RedThat 09-28-2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6120638)
Because this past offseason was the franchise doing the same things over and over that it has before.
:spock:

Yes they did.

What difference does it make when you replace Damion McIntosh with Ndukwe? All you're doing is getting rid of a junk and replacing that position with another junk.

What difference does it make when you gid rid of Donnie Edwards and replace him with Mike Vrabel? Both old aging players clearly on the verge of being at the end of their football careers.

What difference does it make when you replace Jeff Webb with Terrence Copper? What difference does it make when you sign Mike Goff and replace Adrian Jones?

Regardless the moves are the same. You replace one scrap with another. Replace one cheap with another cheap. And you replace one old with another old. I thought positions are suposed to be upgraded? In the Chiefs case its not. Like I said, earlier, you cant expect to have a good football team when you try to create it with scrubs. If you don't have talent you aint winning its that simple, but yet were being told this is the "right way." this is the remedy of a team that will be 3-13.

Same philosophy, same mentality and thats why they will continue to suck because they ain't gonna change the way they operate.

Brock 09-28-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6120713)
Yes they did.

What difference does it make when you replace Damion McIntosh with Ndukwe? All you're doing is getting rid of a junk and replacing that position with another junk.

What difference does it make when you gid rid of Donnie Edwards and replace him with Mike Vrabel? Both old aging players clearly on the verge of being at the end of their football careers.

What difference does it make when you replace Jeff Webb with Terrence Copper? What difference does it make when you sign Mike Goff and replace Adrian Jones?

Regardless the moves are the same. You replace one scrap with another. Replace one cheap with another cheap. And you replace one old with another old. I thought positions are suposed to be upgraded? In the Chiefs case its not. Like I said, earlier, you cant expect to have a good football team when you try to create it with scrubs. If you don't have talent you aint winning its that simple, but yet were being told this is the "right way." this is the remedy of a team that will be 3-13.

Same philosophy, same mentality and thats why they will continue to suck because they ain't gonna change the way they operate.

Who are the players you would have brought in?

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-28-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6120638)
Because this past offseason was the franchise doing the same things over and over that it has before.
:spock:

Trading for a backup QB from a "dynasty"? Check
Passing on developing a franchise QB in the draft? Check
Working with a good ole boy network? Check.


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