Makes me sick how many good players we let go, only to end up with crumbier players.

Johnny Damon
Jermaine Dye
Carlos Beltran
and on and on...

Spend some money, Glass.

Just think of how many all-star games he would have played in as a Royal, since we have to send somebody.

Damon, Dye, Beltran, Ibanez, Affeldt, Ramirez, DelaRosa

Drafting Luke "More MLB ready" Hochevar over "Soon-to-be 2-time Cy Young Winner" Tim Lincecum

Drafting Alex "bust" Gordon over Evan Longoria

Imagine if Berroa panned out after his rookie of the year season. Man did he tank.

1. LF Damon
2. CF Beltran
3. 3B Longoria
4. RF Dye
5. DH Butler
6. 1B Ibanez
7. SS Berroa
8. 2B Callaspo
9. C anyone but Buck

That 1-6 order is pretty sick considering Butler doesn't do his typical "wait til late summer/early fall to produce" act.

Pitching
Greinke
Lincecum
Meche
DeLaRosa
"some free agent"

Bullpen
Affeldt
Ramirez
Soria


This team would ****ing whoop the shit out of our division.

Thanks Glass!!!

x2, but doesn't 3,000 hits pretty much guarantee an induction?

Where would this team have gone, if they had kept Damon, Dye, Beltran and Ibanez?

With a possible rotation of Greinke, Lincecum, DelaRosa, and Meche in the playoffs.....this team would go very far. ALCS at least.

Yeah, baseball used to be fun back in the day when the Royals were contenders every year.

But I haven't watched a single inning of the playoffs or WS this year, just don't care. **** the Yankees!

Screw all y'all.
And screw Scott Boras too!

But hey, at least we got him out of KC right?....right?

It's not all money anymore.
2009 Cardinals payroll = $76.5 million
2009 Royals payroll = $71.5 million

BRC, you might want to look over the Cards payroll again, especially all the dead money we were paying to guys like Kennedy.

It was right at 89-91 million

opening day payroll. Not what it was at the end of the year. The most trusted and believed database is the USA Today's database. Looks like my figures were $2million off. Still not a big competitve advantage.
http://content.usatoday.com/sports/b...aspx?year=2009

<TABLE id=BBSalTable cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=front-head2>2009 </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#000000 height=1>http://images.usatoday.com/_common/_images/clear.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE id=salaryGrid style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: white; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-BOTTOM-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 638px; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: white; HEIGHT: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: white" borderColor=white cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=4 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans style="WIDTH: 50%" align=middle>Team</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans style="WIDTH: 50%" align=middle>Total payroll</TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffdccb" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">New York Yankees </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 201,449,189 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">New York Mets </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 149,373,987 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffdccb" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Chicago Cubs </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 134,809,000 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Boston Red Sox </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 121,745,999 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffdccb" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Detroit Tigers </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 115,085,145 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Los Angeles Angels </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 113,709,000 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffdccb" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Philadelphia Phillies </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 113,004,046 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Houston Astros </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 102,996,414 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffdccb" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Los Angeles Dodgers </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 100,414,592 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Seattle Mariners </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 98,904,166 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffdccb" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Atlanta Braves </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 96,726,166 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Chicago White Sox </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 96,068,500 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffdccb" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">San Francisco Giants </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 82,616,450 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Cleveland Indians </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 81,579,166 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffdccb" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Toronto Blue Jays </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 80,538,300 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Milwaukee Brewers </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 80,182,502 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffdccb" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">St. Louis Cardinals </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 77,605,109 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Colorado Rockies </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 75,201,000 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffdccb" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Cincinnati Reds </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 73,558,500 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Arizona Diamondbacks </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 73,516,666 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffdccb" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Kansas City Royals </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 70,519,333 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Texas Rangers </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 68,178,798 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffdccb" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Baltimore Orioles </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 67,101,666 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Minnesota Twins </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 65,299,266 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffdccb" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Tampa Bay Rays </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 63,313,034 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Oakland Athletics </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 62,310,000 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffdccb" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Washington Nationals </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 60,328,000 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Pittsburgh Pirates </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 48,693,000 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffdccb" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">San Diego Padres </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 43,734,200 </TD></TR><TR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" nowrap="nowrap"><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%">Florida Marlins </TD><TD class=front-lede-link style="WIDTH: 50%" align=right>$ 36,834,000 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
You want to see the Cardinals exact contracts, length and also other teams?
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/200...115041890.html

Damon had a Hall of Fame Jesus mullet for a few years....

No, and it really shouldn't be much of a discussion IMO.

Good lord.

Pujols 09:$16M:
Carpenter: 09:$14M
Matt Holliday: 5MM (Pro-Rated amount of 13.5 Million)
Glaus: 12 Million
Pineiro: 7.5 Million
Lohse: 7.1 Million
Greene: 6.5 Million
DeRosa: 2.25 Million (Pro-Rated amount of 5.5)
Wellemeyer: 4 million
Ludwick: 3.7 million
Molina: 3.25 million
Ankiel 2.8 million
Wainwright: 2.6 million
Franklin: 2.5 million
Miller: 2 million
Reyes: 1 Million


That also leaves out the 5 million we're paying Kennedy to be a part of the A's.

Total payroll:

97.2 not including rookie or vet minimum deals.

Take off the pro-rated 7-8 mill you have for DeRo and Holliday, and add in the rookie deals, and you have precisely the number I told you.


And moreover, USA Today is not the source you should be going to for this. It's vivaelbirdos.