Cassel is doing the same shit he was doing in NE last year, quick dump outs the difference is we don't have Welker or Moss to turn those into big plays.

And his coaching from last year is still ingrained in his head of "don't make mistakes, take the sack don't throw the pick"

NE told him that cause they could win as long as he didn't **** up, that's not gonna cut it anymore.

I'd have the ****ing meltdown of meltdowns.

So you are saying by the time he's fired he will have turned us into the Lions and we'll have an 0-16 season?

Dwayne Bowe is a beast but I think they will trade him.

Well it'll be fun trying to move the ball with 0 offensive players.

No what i'm saying is exactly what you pointed out. Bowe isn't of the Moss/Welker ilk.

You think Pioli will just trade Bowe and not bring in any talent?

Well they got rid of a bunch of guys this year and replaced them with worse players...

To be fair, I wonder what limitations Haley has put on him, and how much is just him being scared to take a shot.

I read an article that quoted BB as saying Cassel was instructed to take sacks instead of throwing the ball away in his first 7 or so games because he was only looking at his first two reads then taking his eyes off the receivers and looked at the rush. Collinsworth said this in the nfln replays of the games too. He has that same problem now and that makes me wonder how much he is really progressing.

Trent Green might have thrown alot of picks, but he also threw a lot to try and keep us in games...he was taking chances. Cassel just looks scared to make a mistake...I bet some of that reason is the fire ball that would shoot from Haleys mouth straight at him if he did make a bunch of mistakes.

God, please save my team and its fans from themselves!!!

Like I said those guys aren't long term replacements this season was nothing but a year to see who can play.

I need to type faster!

ROFL

I somewhat agree with you.

I did not like the signing to begin with but it is done and we now have to live with Cassel. But the relentless bitching and moaning about Cassel is ****ing ridiculous.

The guy isn't calling the plays and he is doing what he can with this ****tastic team he is playing on. He has never once quit on this team despite getting hit shit pushed in on a weekly basis.

I will disagree with you on a previous post about his holding on to the ball too long. Cassel gets pressured damn near every time he drops back. The guy simply does not have enough time.

Even then... I would 10x rather him take the sack than turn the ball over. If we had some sort of defense then I would take a different stance. ****ing chuck that ball and let the D clean up the mess if its picked off. But that is not the case which leaves us needed EVERY possession we have to even make a game of it.

Anymore I am watching games wondering how many points we are going to give up THIS drive as opposed to if they are going to score at all.

Cassel is nothing like Green, Green threw the ball down the field, even when this team was bad he was throwing picks because he was going for big plays.

For the most part Cassel won't even attempt it.

I think Cassel is ridiculously gun shy, this is a bad team if he throws a pick going for a big play so be it.

But he plays like we have a great defense and as long as he doesn't **** up we might win, I don't want a QB like that.

I am not trying to make excuses for Cassel...he needs to play better.

But, I think that #1 we lack receivers who can get open down the field and #2 the pass protection is so awful most of the time calling downfield routes is wishful thinking. If you watch a lot of plays guys are looking at the quarterback almost immediately after running four or five yards down the field. Haley knows his offense's limitations...

If we're still dealing with a 5.5 YPA QB when the pass protection has improved and and receivers are getting open down the field....then it's an issue. Until then I'm more inclined to harp on him for holding onto the ball and accuracy issues.