If you're getting paid millions to play a freakin' game and screw up or have a brainfart that costs/may cost your team, then I think it's only fair for you to get verbally berated in response. Just like a drill sargeant; break 'em down and build 'em back up.

Suck it up, gentlemen.

20 years ago we already had a woman running for vice president

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His problem isn't with the yelling. It's losing his cool and making bad decisions because he's unfocused.

Hopefully, he'll continue to grow into the head coaching position.

With the group of players he's been given to coach, I'd be pissed off, too.

Gunther Cunningham used to cuss everyone out of the building but people loved him. Haley has just been painted as out of control by the media. I think people here are afraid that he just screams at people to get things done, and that modern athletes don't respect that. But from what I've actually seen, that's not how he does things. And if all he did was scream at players and get pissed off, there is no way he'd have this job, let alone an offensive coordinator job or working for Parcells in any capacity...

Those people were wrong.

Cunningham was and still is a stooge.

Yeah, right. Because when Haley's often caught on the sidelines of a game yelling, screaming and cussing at players and coaches, it's the "media" that paints him as out of control.

Like it's not obvious to the untrained eye.

Without results, they don't and won't. The screaming will only go so far without positive results.


Gimme a break. The NFL is all about fraternity. Who did Haley "coach up" at Dallas or Chicago? Haley didn't call the plays his first season in Arizona and as a matter of fact, they're a better team this year without Haley and Pendergast.

Haley got the job for one reason: His relationship with Pioli. I'm fine with that. But the guy needs to find a way to better coach his quarterbacks, his offense and his entire football team.

Otherwise, he won't be a head football coach for long.

I treat my wife just like I treated her 20 years ago when we were dating. With respect and dignity. And like a goddess most of the time. But a bunch of over paid athletes need their balls rubbed in the dirt when they mess up. If it hurts, they can go flip burgers for all I care. If you don't fix the problem, you get a whole mess of Larry Johnson's, TO's, OCHOCINCO's and every other known locker room cancer. Now, they get by on talent and attitude gets thrown out the window. Haley is being named the next Parcells and I applaud it.

He's bullheaded and everytime he looks on the field he sees red. What the **** do you expect lol

Hey, he's 2-7, you get no argument regarding the job he's done so far.

I really don't think what he did or didn't do has any bearing on his ability. You could have made similar arguments against Sean Payton before he got the job in New Orleans. Harbaugh was a ST coach before the Ravens hired him. Tomlin was a DC for one year before getting hired.

I'm saying you probably aren't going to be working in the NFL and moving up the ladder if you have no coaching ability. Haley may end up being a good head coach, or it may turn out that the Peter Principle applies here and he should be no more than an Offensive Coordinator at best. We'll see. If he doesn't improve from where he is now, he'll never make it as a Head Coach. And that improvement will obviously start with the hires he needs to make in the offseason and the adjustments he needs to make with his own approach...

He has this team playing pretty good football right now, they just aren't talented enough.

At least they play hard, maintain there responsabilities (most of the time) and never quit.

If they can maintain that attitude and add some playmakers, Haley and this team will be fine.

And you can see how they become much more energetic and explosive once they start having success.

I think the coaching is there. The playcalling needs work and we need to add a lot more talent to the team.

Ahhhhh... OK. So this is millionaire hatred? You want them treated like shit because you don't think they deserve their money.

Whoahh whoooaaah.... What?

I think the bottom line is he has a style, some guys (TO) can't handle that style, and other (Fitzgerald, Keyshawn, Warner) seem perfectly fine with that style. That's why a coach wants "his guys", because he knows they will be receptive and work hard in the environment he is building and the way he coaches.

Speaking of Keyshawn, here's what he said earlier this year on Haley, seems to fit:

No, you couldn't. Payton was the OC of the Giants when they were in the 2000 Super Bowl. He was later the assistant head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. He most certainly earned his position.

Harbaugh was the Special Teams coordinator for 9 years before moving to defensive backs for 2 years. He spent 11 years in Philly.

Tomlin was the defensive backs coach in Tampa under Gruden and twice lead the league in yardage by secondaries. He was the DC in Minnesota before being hired by Pittsburgh.

All three of the guys you mentioned spent far more time in the coaching ranks than Haley. Does that mean that Haley won't succeed? No. But comparing those men to Haley is tenuous at best.

The problem with Haley as I see it is that the doesn't have enough experience in the league to be able to handle the head coaching duties, offensive coordinator duties and QB coaching duties. All three of those areas have been well below average this year.

The decision to separate those duties next year will weigh heavily into his success as a head coach.

Shit was real in '89. Downtown Overland Park, Video Library on 87th...we didn't **** around.