So excited about this. Thrilled.

He didn't draft Ray Lewis, either. :Elvis:

And Eric Mangini was a great hire b/c of the tutelage of Belichick.
And Romeo Crennel.
And Charlie Weis had his "decided schematic advantage".


Jesus Christ, people. Barry Switzer won a Super Bowl as a head coach. Barry ****ing Switzer.

Lovie Smith, Dick Jauron, Jim Haslett, Ray Rhodes, Dom Capers, and yes the great Wayne Fontes were all voted as Coaches of the year.

Ted Thompson won executive of the year as did Randy Mueller, architect of the 2007 Miami Dolphins, and Carmen Policy of the 1999-2004 Browns.

Okay. It's reasonable to be pissed at Haley's decision-making lately. It's also understandable that fans are disappointed in Cassel who, apparently, has some serious delivery issues. Not only that, as Chiefs fans, we have every reason and right to heave giant cans of pork & beans at our run defense.

But, we have to recognize that our GM and HC are human. As such, they will make some mistakes. Throwing Pioli under the wheels because he has been unable to turn this enormous pile of dogshit of a franchise around in less than a year is just girlish.

Guys, we are an abysmal team. Talent-wise, we are Estelle Getty's wardrobe malfunction. With precious few exceptions, our personnel suck across the board. They need to be replaced, but it cannot be done in a year ... or even two. It's just something that we're going to have to deal with.

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There is an argument you can make for every single avaialble GM candidate this last off-season.

DeCosta is with Ozzie Newsome.
Chris Polian is with his father.

It's impossible to know how much those guys are responsible for the success of their organizations and drafts - much like Pioli.

I just don't get the point arguing who the brains behind the operation was. No one is going to prove it for sure.

I'll give him more than a year on the job before I'm ready to shoot him out back.

DeCosta....That's the guy i wanted. Couldn't remember his name...

BB won 3 SBs with the rosters that they built.

BB shut down the Colts, Rams, and other high flying attacks, and coached the most dangerous offense in the history of football.
Pioli was the GM,and BB the coach when players such as Ty Law, Asante Samuel were acquired, along with Richard Seymore, and .. screw it, you know the names.

So far this season, the genius BB, has shown that his team is going to lose more games with Tom Terrific, at QB than it did with a Matt Cassel.

He's also shown that it's not his genius that won all those games. It was a special group of players who he, and Pioli, hand picked. If he was such a genius. He wouldn't be losing games, by constantly going for it on 4th, and he sure as hell wouldn't be getting his ass handed to him by Sean Payton.
Not to mention the fact that Tom Coughlin out coached him in one SB, and Mike Martz handed him another by not running the ball.
As far as all of you guys already giving up on a regime after one draft, and 12 games with one of the worst rosters in the league. I just have to laugh.
Is it very possible that they Fail? Ugh.... yeah, but they haven't failed yet morons. We won 2 games last year. We will probably win 4 this year. It's a start, and it as much as anyone could ask for considering the circumstances.
Nancies.

FAX, you know that's a false choice.

No one was expecting this team to be the '85 Bears. I wasn't expecting them to be the '85 Chiefs 6-10.

With that said, when his two biggest acquisitions look like botched abortions, how does that inspire any confidence.

We aren't looking for dominance, we're looking for signs of life near the bottom of the Marianas Trench.

You know, if Bellichick gets the credit, then he should get the blame. He's also the one who decided to dump Seymour for a draft pick two years from now.

If Pioli gets the blame, then he also ought to get the credit for putting together a three time super bowl champion and the team of the decade.

The truth lies somewhere in the middle. It's really never one guy, it's the organization and how it is structured. How good are your scouts? Is your head coach asking for the right players that as a GM you are supposed to get him? Are you evaluating well? Is your organizational structure sound? Did you get lucky on some draft picks?

You have to give Pioli a few more years to see if he truly has a plan to get talent in here and build this team properly. Everyone said his process would take a few years, so Clark agreed to give him that. My biggest concern is his choice as head coach, but we'll see.

As far as the Pats go, some people around here were blaming the Pats going "only" 11-5 last year on Matt Cassel. Now that we've seen that Tom Brady himself is only good enough to go 7-5 this year, it's obvious that this isn't the same team it was two years ago.

Who knows? Based on this past offseason and even some of his in game decisions this year, and electing to call the plays himself instead of hiring an OC, maybe B.B. has gotten to the point that he's just trying to outsmart himself, what with all the draft day trading down and the Seymour trade. Maybe that's why Pioli felt it was the right time to leave. Or maybe the Pats got lucky for a few years and all of that is coming back at them now. Time will tell. But I will agree that this season and the moves we made in the offseason don't reflect well on the current administration.

If we're going to get anywhere, improvement must occur from the top down and mistakes must be learned from and not repeated, otherwise there will be a new management team in a few years...

It's amazing that none of you dumb mother****ers, in spending voluminous time defending him, still don't realize that VP of Pro Personnel isn't the ****ing GM of the team.

Scott Pioli has been a GM for one offseason and 12 games. That's his experience in this position.

Why do people not understand this?

This team was HORRIBLE. What could you have possibly been expecting?

They should have gotten this thing turned around by now. If we're not good now we'll never be any good with Pioli running the show. It's time to clean house and start over........./Chiefs Planet


PhilFree:arrow:

ROFL:clap:

Well, the SB rings are real. And, although people can trot out endless examples of failed HCs and GMs who were hired away from winning franchises, it doesn't take history major to figure out that every situation is different and that generalizations are pointless to the level of silliness.

Will Pioli be successful here? Can he transfer his acknowledged success at NE to KC? Who knows? But, condemning Pioli after 1 off-season and 11 games (regardless of what we're currently registering on the suckometer) is nothing short of foolishness. It really is.

We desperately need talent. Almost everywhere. Even if we're lucky enough to acquire a difference-making, impact player, franchise god-man on both sides of the ball, it will take time to fill out this team. The sad fact is that we're below average at almost every position.

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