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Mr. Laz 01-06-2010 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerPig (Post 6417472)
That's right, stay positive! :D

There's a lot of love in this room...

you mean as positive as your OP?

BIG K 01-06-2010 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerPig (Post 6417456)
I mean, do other teams and analysts think, "They are so smart for going after Weiss, Cassel, and (possibly) Crennel, to try and bring that winning attitude to KC!" Or are they thinking, "How pathetic, they can't even make their own decisions on coaching and are just trying to copy New England as much as possible!"

Its pretty obvious we're ripping off the Patriots' philosophy. We're not copying it, we're literally trying to take the exact personnel and players they had and win with them here. Is this a smart, tactful thing? Or a sad and pathetic thing?

FTR I don't see a problem with it. If we start winning, they can change Cassel's name to Tom Brady and put Haley in a huge hoodie for all I care.

Yes, in a new regime, it always pathetic to surround yourself with people who have superbowl rings. Whether or not, people will call this the patsification. Oh well, I would rather the Chiefs surround themselves with proven winners than the slapdick coaching staff they put together last year.

It's an improvement over last year......

Mr. Plow 01-06-2010 10:26 PM

God forbid....don't let us become like the Patriots and all the championships. Let's pick a better team to model after....maybe the Browns? Raiders?

Galileo Humpkins 01-06-2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerPig (Post 6417472)
There's a lot of love in this room...

Every thread ends in a lovesome orgy.

Hope you brought lubricant.

LaChapelle 01-06-2010 10:27 PM

Don't let the KU fans get you down
Mr Brown

Reaper16 01-06-2010 10:28 PM

Aping the Patriots would be fine if we could acquire the one and only piece that made it all work.

BossChief 01-06-2010 10:29 PM

we could do worse...

Titty Meat 01-06-2010 10:30 PM

These are nice moves but like I've said I've seen this dance before. If this organization wants to be good again it's simply going to have to do a better job drafting.

TigerPig 01-06-2010 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6417491)
you mean as positive as your OP?

My post is asking whether or not people think it is positive or negative. I see it as a great thing! It makes me really happy to see the Chiefs bringing in someone that I wholeheartedly trust will make things better. That hasn't happened very often. I didn't even do that with Vermeil. I did with Pioli, and now I am with Weiss.

I'm super positive. I just hope they can keep going. They could pick a million more ex-pats (lol), just as long as it brings in great coaches.

But I KNOW some people around here will disagree, which is why I asked.

DaneMcCloud 01-06-2010 10:38 PM

Who gives a **** what "analysts" think?

Charlie Weis is a damn good offensive coordinator. Period. He'll bring so much to the Chiefs offensively that I would not be shocked to see us in the Top Ten next year.

Offense is all about play design. Cassel has limitations (as does every QB) but I fully expect Weis to design plays that will limit his deficiencies while creating plays that make him far more efficient.

Haley had some good ideas but he was stretched way too thin. He did a lot of stupid shit because there was no one around with a pedigree he respected to keep him in check. I guarantee that all those stupid, inappropriate trick plays and shit like trying a fake punt on your own 28 while only down one score has come to an end.

I'm shocked that anyone, ANYONE, can find a negative in his hiring.

Micjones 01-06-2010 10:40 PM

Guess I'm weird...

I care more about the success these coaches have had in their NFL careers that I do who their previous employers were. Name for me, if you would, a better Offensive Coordinator candidate going into the 2010 NFL regular season. Don't worry...I'll wait.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-06-2010 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6417468)
By my count this is the third time the Chiefs have tried to ape a more successful franchise.

Funny how no one seems to recognize this when it's so ****ing obvious.

jAZ 01-06-2010 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6417534)
Who gives a **** what "analysts" think?

Charlie Weis is a damn good offensive coordinator. Period. He'll bring so much to the Chiefs offensively that I would not be shocked to see us in the Top Ten next year.

Offense is all about play design. Cassel has limitations (as does every QB) but I fully expect Weis to design plays that will limit his deficiencies while creating plays that make him far more efficient.

Haley had some good ideas but he was stretched way too thin. He did a lot of stupid shit because there was no one around with a pedigree he respected to keep him in check. I guarantee that all those stupid, inappropriate trick plays and shit like trying a fake punt on your own 28 while only down one score has come to an end.

I'm shocked that anyone, ANYONE, can find a negative in his hiring.

Jason Whitlock hasn't posted his article yet.

OnTheWarpath15 01-06-2010 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6417540)
Guess I'm weird...

I care more about the success these coaches have had in their NFL careers that I do who their previous employers were. Name for me, if you would, a better Offensive Coordinator candidate going into the 2010 NFL regular season. Don't worry...I'll wait.

Considering hardly anyone has been fired, Mic, that's pretty hard to say.

And that's coming from someone who's generally happy with the Weis hire.

TheGuardian 01-06-2010 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerPig (Post 6417456)
I mean, do other teams and analysts think, "They are so smart for going after Weiss, Cassel, and (possibly) Crennel, to try and bring that winning attitude to KC!" Or are they thinking, "How pathetic, they can't even make their own decisions on coaching and are just trying to copy New England as much as possible!"

Its pretty obvious we're ripping off the Patriots' philosophy. We're not copying it, we're literally trying to take the exact personnel and players they had and win with them here. Is this a smart, tactful thing? Or a sad and pathetic thing?

FTR I don't see a problem with it. If we start winning, they can change Cassel's name to Tom Brady and put Haley in a huge hoodie for all I care.

Damn you're a pathetically stupid MF'er. Find a grease fire to throw yourself into.


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