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BIG K 01-11-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6436182)
Mike Brown would need a jetpack up his ass to get up to speed.

Meh. He would still take bad angles and overshoot the player and land somewhere in the stands....

BIG K 01-11-2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6436229)
Kudos to Pioli. This is HUGE for this franchise.

My excitement in the off season started with Krummy not returning, things have been looking up since.

Marcellus 01-11-2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6436198)
I think hes talking about guys they've brought in...

Yup

Micjones 01-11-2010 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG K (Post 6436239)
My excitement in the off season started with Krummy not returning, things have been looking up since.

That too. GREAT start to the Chiefs off-season.
We need a good D-Line coach though...

DaWolf 01-11-2010 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6436163)
Dick and Herm would have kept Clancy on for 4 years.

This is the reason I'll give Haley props. He holds players accountable, but he's also showing that he'll keep his assistants accountable.

I said it before, half the battle to me with being a good head coach is being able to surround yourself with excellent coordinators. Say what you want about these guys, they've done it before.

And say what you want about Pioli, he could have said F it, and made Haley hire no name, cheap coordinators and if things fell apart, blamed it on the coaches. In the past it was easy to blame our defensive shortcomings on GRob or Ddumbther or Krumrie or any number of coaches we blamed. By hiring these two guys, the heat is now squarely on the GM, because everyone knows these guys can coach and these guys can help lead teams to Super Bowls. So if there is failure, the only real place to point is at talent acquisition. The heat is now on Pioli to get these guys players...

DaWolf 01-11-2010 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6436250)
That too. GREAT start to the Chiefs off-season.
We need a good D-Line coach though...

Rumor has it that Crennel is going to coach the DL as well as coordinate.

Hammock Parties 01-11-2010 09:56 PM

At this point I wouldn't be giving them credit for hiring their buddies.

Two years from now this could stink like Gunther redux.

chiefzilla1501 01-11-2010 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6436268)
Rumor has it that Crennel is going to coach the DL as well as coordinate.

I would imagine that they'd keep Pleasant and have Crennel help with coaching D-linemen. It's hard to argue Crennel's credentials as a D-line coach.

Marco Polo 01-11-2010 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6436268)
Rumor has it that Crennel is going to coach the DL as well as coordinate.

Is that his area of expertise? Anyone know?

Micjones 01-11-2010 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6436268)
Rumor has it that Crennel is going to coach the DL as well as coordinate.

Interesting.

chiefzilla1501 01-11-2010 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6436271)
At this point I wouldn't be giving them credit for hiring their buddies.

Two years from now this could stink like Gunther redux.

Weis won't be.

I was worried about this with Crennel, though. We'll see.

BigRedChief 01-11-2010 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 6436273)
Is that his area of expertise? Anyone know?

Yes, thats where he started in coaching

chiefzilla1501 01-11-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 6436273)
Is that his area of expertise? Anyone know?

Almost his entire history has been in the 3-4 as D-line coach, especially with this Patriot version of the 2-gap. He's one of the best at it.

Can he coordinate a defense w/out Belichick? Dunno. But he can coach the hell out of the 2-gap line scheme.

Micjones 01-11-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6436271)
At this point I wouldn't be giving them credit for hiring their buddies.

Two years from now this could stink like Gunther redux.

Failure's always possible.
That's beside the point as long as you're making the right decision for your franchise. Fans can deal with failure when the organization has made sound decisions that just didn't pan out. What we can't deal with is standing pat with coordinators we KNOW won't cut it.

Marcellus 01-11-2010 09:59 PM

Don't forget the Clark is cheap crowd.
I doubt Haley is that expensive but if you look at what Pioli, Haley, Romeo,and Charlie are making it has to be one of higher $ staffs around.
I doubt Charlie and Romeo were cheap.


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