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BossChief 03-09-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6590955)
I don't think so. I think Sanchez goes to St. Louis in a heartbeat if he's coming out this year.

Well, the debatable part I was talking about is injuries, dealing with adversity of having to do more because of the loss of so many defenders, nitpickers etc.

He would likely be the top prospect, but you never know 100% till it happens.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-09-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6590973)
Well, the debatable part I was talking about is injuries, dealing with adversity of having to do more because of the loss of so many defenders, nitpickers etc.

He would likely be the top prospect, but you never know 100% till it happens.

It's totally incomparable, but I was huge on Sanchez early last year. The upside alone puts him head and shoulders above IMO. Bradford was smart not coming out last year if he actually gets picked first.

DeezNutz 03-09-2010 08:40 PM

If the Weis hire means we finally get to draft and develop a legit franchise QB, it will be the single greatest coaching acquisition in the last 27 years, hands down.

BossChief 03-09-2010 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6591015)
If the Weis hire means we finally get to draft and develop a legit franchise QB, it will be the single greatest coaching acquisition in the last 27 years, hands down.

agree 100%

To me, it would be the most exciting draft pick of all time!

I would make a serious investment in season tickets because I would have a real feel that I could make serious long term profit on them.

Saccopoo 03-09-2010 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6590603)
He's a Shanahan pick. No doubt about it.

He's got no mobility and has to wind up to throw a ball more than 20 yards. Not even remotely close to being what Shanahan wants from a quarterback.

However, Pestilence says he's already been fitted for his bust in Canton, so I'll go with his assessment. I'm sure he's looking at Clausen's pro potential objectively. Sure, Clausen really only had one good season and tossed 17 picks his sophomore year alone, is on the small side, with short arms and small hands and comes off as an entitled douche that looks to blame others before himself. But we want guys like that on our team.

Saccopoo 03-09-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6590639)
I've been saying that since I first took the time to watch some video on him. He's going to Washington.

I'm ****ing crossing my fingers that this happens so we don't consider him with our pick. However, like I said, he's not a Shanahan type quarterback by any measure.

I do hope he's there with the Chiefs pick and they are smart enough to do a deal with the Browns who obviously know a good quarterback when they see one and move up for this Hall of Fame level player. Because, if any Browns executive is reading this right now, I'm telling you - Seattle wants this guy with all of their being. They will draft Clausen. Bank on it. You better trade with the Chiefs to make sure you get this once in a generation level talent for your QBOTF.

Saccopoo 03-09-2010 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6590973)
Well, the debatable part I was talking about is injuries, dealing with adversity of having to do more because of the loss of so many defenders, nitpickers etc.

He would likely be the top prospect, but you never know 100% till it happens.

Jesus dude, don't give in to these guys. Stand your ground. Clausen is the ****ing bomb! Sanchez couldn't hold his jock strap and you know it. It's why he's the top qb in this draft and why he'd be the top pick over Sanchez, who was a product of the system versus being an unmitigated stud that had no one around him and that's why his standout junior season resulted in a 6-6 record (that closed out with four straight losses). No defense and no running game. (Although it's hard to have a running game when you are throwing the ball 40 plays a game.)

And don't worry about the mobility issue with Clausen. Over the course of his college career he carried the ball 175 times for a grand total of -355 yards. (Yep, that's a negative 355 yards.) In his standout junior season he managed to gain positive yardage only twice, with each of those resulting in ONE yard. 2 yards gained to 97 yards lost on his 57 carries in 2009. But you can put that on a horrible offensive line (that will see two players get drafted in Sam Young and Eric Olsen - but horrible nonetheless), not on Jimmy Clausen.

**** no Sanchez wouldn't have beat out Clausen as the top pick in this draft. Stand your ground like a man!

BossChief 03-09-2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6591338)
Jesus dude, don't give in to these guys. Stand your ground. Clausen is the ****ing bomb! Sanchez couldn't hold his jock strap and you know it. It's why he's the top qb in this draft and why he'd be the top pick over Sanchez, who was a product of the system versus being an unmitigated stud that had no one around him and that's why his standout junior season resulted in a 6-6 record (that closed out with four straight losses). No defense and no running game. (Although it's hard to have a running game when you are throwing the ball 40 plays a game.)

And don't worry about the mobility issue with Clausen. Over the course of his college career he carried the ball 175 times for a grand total of -355 yards. (Yep, that's a negative 355 yards.) In his standout junior season he managed to gain positive yardage only twice, with each of those resulting in ONE yard. 2 yards gained to 97 yards lost on his 57 carries in 2009. But you can put that on a horrible offensive line (that will see two players get drafted in Sam Young and Eric Olsen - but horrible nonetheless), not on Jimmy Clausen.

**** no Sanchez wouldn't have beat out Clausen as the top pick in this draft. Stand your ground like a man!

are you drunk?

Kyle DeLexus 03-09-2010 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6591338)
Jesus dude, don't give in to these guys. Stand your ground. Clausen is the ****ing bomb! Sanchez couldn't hold his jock strap and you know it. It's why he's the top qb in this draft and why he'd be the top pick over Sanchez, who was a product of the system versus being an unmitigated stud that had no one around him and that's why his standout junior season resulted in a 6-6 record (that closed out with four straight losses). No defense and no running game. (Although it's hard to have a running game when you are throwing the ball 40 plays a game.)

And don't worry about the mobility issue with Clausen. Over the course of his college career he carried the ball 175 times for a grand total of -355 yards. (Yep, that's a negative 355 yards.) In his standout junior season he managed to gain positive yardage only twice, with each of those resulting in ONE yard. 2 yards gained to 97 yards lost on his 57 carries in 2009. But you can put that on a horrible offensive line (that will see two players get drafted in Sam Young and Eric Olsen - but horrible nonetheless), not on Jimmy Clausen.

**** no Sanchez wouldn't have beat out Clausen as the top pick in this draft. Stand your ground like a man!

Holy shit your right we should draft ****ing Tim Tebow, he's got mobility.

ChiefsCountry 03-10-2010 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6591594)
are you drunk?

No he is a ****ing reerun.

KCrockaholic 03-10-2010 12:06 AM

Cutler has been his most common comparison. I have to agree with that. If Cutler wasn't a dumbass he would be looking like Aaron Rodgers right now. Instead, he looks like Jeff George.

I don't see Clausen as a douchebag to the extent of Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, or Cutler. But, I think his immaturity will hinder his performance during the first couple years of his career. I've said many times, that I don't care that he played in a pro-style offense. He is not an NFL ready QB. It will take him until 2012 or 13 to fully mature and become solid. He is going to struggle during the early part of his career.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-10-2010 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 6591671)
Cutler has been his most common comparison. I have to agree with that. If Cutler wasn't a dumbass he would be looking like Aaron Rodgers right now. Instead, he looks like Jeff George.

I don't see Clausen as a douchebag to the extent of Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, or Cutler. But, I think his immaturity will hinder his performance during the first couple years of his career. I've said many times, that I don't care that he played in a pro-style offense. He is not an NFL ready QB. It will take him until 2012 or 13 to fully mature and become solid. He is going to struggle during the early part of his career.

So, basically he will be every non-Dan Marino QB, ever.

KCrockaholic 03-10-2010 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6591764)
So, basically he will be every non-Dan Marino QB, ever.

Well we see guys like Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez, or Big Ben step in and be a decent QB at an early stage of their career, I don't think Clausen is going to be close to that. That's not taking away what he can be in his prime, but I can just picture all the Clausen lovers worried to death, that he is a bust after having a terrible rookie season if he starts. While the anti-Clausen people are saying "I told you so."

People are going to judge Clausen to quickly, and I fully expect Sam Bradford to have a better 1st season than Clausen.

I see Clausen as a developmental guy, and the reason he will go as the #2 QB in the draft is because he has the tools to work with, moreso than the other QB's in this draft that are also developmental guys.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-10-2010 01:09 AM

The spread alone will make it impossible for Bradford to do anything next year.

BossChief 03-10-2010 01:12 AM

in NDs 6 losses this year, the offense put up

34
27
21
22
30
38

I would love to see how he would be perceived if his defense was a decent unit...


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