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Hammock Parties 04-17-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 6682715)
I don't understand why people are so opposed to this? And don't tell me they're the same player because Dorsey and Suh are not the same.

Because repeating the mistake we made last year would be colossally dumb?

We just took a five-tech and now you want to sink 60 mil into ANOTHER ONE?

Suh's talents would be wasted in the 3-4, this point is irrelevant anyway, he's going to Detroit or Tampa Bay and he'll get 6-7 sacks every year and be a Pro Bowl 3-tech.

DeezNutz 04-17-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6682723)
If Suh were to be chosen by the Chiefs, if I were Pioli, I'd dump Tyson Jackson.

Dorsey and Suh on that line would be insane.

If he actually did this, however, Hunt would have no choice but to fire him.

You simply cannot make that strong of an overt statement about ****ing up one of the highest draft picks in franchise history.

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2010 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6682732)
If he actually did this, however, Hunt would have no choice but to fire him.

You simply cannot make that strong of an overt statement about ****ing up one of the highest draft picks in franchise history.

Oh, I agree.

But trading Dorsey and keeping Jackson is lunacy, IMO.

DeezNutz 04-17-2010 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6682736)
But trading Dorsey and keeping Jackson is lunacy, IMO.

Completely agree.

DBOSHO 04-17-2010 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6682723)
If Suh were to be chosen by the Chiefs, if I were Pioli, I'd dump Tyson Jackson.

Dorsey and Suh on that line would be insane.

LMAO wow

boogblaster 04-17-2010 07:38 PM

NT needed ..

milkman 04-17-2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6682723)
If Suh were to be chosen by the Chiefs, if I were Pioli, I'd dump Tyson Jackson.

Dorsey and Suh on that line would be insane.

I would too, except for the fact that no one is going to give near the same value for Jackson as you paid for him.

The only way I see the Chiefs selecting Suh is if there is anything to the rumor that Dorsey is being moved inside, which would also indicate that dallas is the model, rather than NE, for this defense that Crennel plans to use.

Hammock Parties 04-17-2010 07:40 PM

That would be a shocker for sure.

And I guess regardless of passing on other players, you'd have to be excited about that front 3.

Mr. Laz 04-17-2010 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6682755)
I would too, except for the fact that no one is going to give near the same value for Jackson as you paid for him.

The only way I see the Chiefs selecting Suh is if there is anything to the rumor that Dorsey is being moved inside, which would also indicate that dallas is the model, rather than NE, for this defense that Crennel plans to use.

Pioli just said mentioned the other day that Dorsey could play nose tackle.

maybe they are going to a more penetrating 3-4 dline like Dallas.

:shrug:

anyway ... i doubt suh falls so it really doesn't matter.

philfree 04-17-2010 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6682755)
I would too, except for the fact that no one is going to give near the same value for Jackson as you paid for him.

The only way I see the Chiefs selecting Suh is if there is anything to the rumor that Dorsey is being moved inside, which would also indicate that dallas is the model, rather than NE, for this defense that Crennel plans to use.

Yeah I was thinking that too.


How would Suh and Dorsey do in a two down linemen formation?


PhilFree:arrow:

milkman 04-17-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6682759)
Pioli just said mentioned the other day that Dorsey could play nose tackle.

maybe they are going to a more penetrating 3-4 dline like Dallas.

:shrug:

anyway ... i doubt suh falls so it really doesn't matter.

Any idea where that rumor about Dorsey moving inside originated?

If that rumor has any legs, then Suh isn't even germaine to the discussion.

Hammock Parties 04-17-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 6682765)
Yeah I was thinking that too.


How would Suh and Dorsey do in a two down linemen formation?


PhilFree:arrow:

Are you talking about a nickel package? The Chiefs actually did that a lot last year with two down linemen and two rushbackers.

Didn't really work that well, neither Dorsey or Tyson Jackson were great as inside rushers. In fact as has been pointed out in the past, the cheap guys - Magee and Gilberry - were more productive.

Hammock Parties 04-17-2010 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6682775)
Any idea where that rumor about Dorsey moving inside originated?

If that rumor has any legs, then Suh isn't even germaine to the discussion.

Nick Wright brought it up at the press conference I think. First I heard of it.

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6682755)
I would too, except for the fact that no one is going to give near the same value for Jackson as you paid for him.

The only way I see the Chiefs selecting Suh is if there is anything to the rumor that Dorsey is being moved inside, which would also indicate that dallas is the model, rather than NE, for this defense that Crennel plans to use.

As much as I'd "dislike" the idea of three defensive lineman as top five picks, I'd be absolutely STOKED if the Chiefs moved to the Dallas version of the 3-4 because I think that Suh and Dorsey would absolutely dominate in that defense.

KCrockaholic 04-17-2010 07:53 PM

I would love to have Suh if we cant get Berry. He is the best player in this draft right along with Eric. And I don't give a **** what any of you say, Suh could and would play Nose Tackle for us.


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