it'll be difficult to regardless of how good he is due to the fact that he's out of position. however, if anybody can buck the trend and break out, I think he can.

Dorsey and Berry are very different deals ... the way I see it, anyhow.

Defensive linemen typically take time to make the transition to the NFL. Sometimes it requires several years before their contribution is either measurable or meaningful. Plus, in our case, you had the additional issue with the move to the 3/4. Berry, on the other hand, has the potential and, presumably, the ability to have an immediate, positive impact as a rookie. Positionally, the early expectations are very different.

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With you mate, laughing with you.
I've been laughing at the Raiders.

And the tags.

Now this is something we can agree on.. ROFL

Really??????

Glenn Dorsey, Branden Albert, Brandon Flowers, Jamaal Charles, Brandon Carr...

All starters. Dorsey is transitioning and showed marked improvement towards the end of his first season at a new position in a new scheme. WTH dude?

Well, it's a darn fascinating pick on many levels. That's for sure.

It will be interesting to see if and/or how Tebow develops. I am looking forward to the first game when our new, bloodthirsty, kick-your-face-in defense lines up against Team Tebow. I predict that prayers will be needed.

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At worst the Chiefs drafted Roy Williams and the Donks drafted White Vick...

Took the words right out of my mouth. That draft kicked ass and could still get even better as Dorsey hopefully improves.

not to mention, cottom is our starting TE and it wouldn't shock me if morgan was starting opposite berry. that's six definite starters and a maybe. that draft was ****ing GOLDEN

Won't be long before you can update your avy with a Berry jersey in red & gold!

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos.../22/berryx.jpg

I've heard Morgan wasn't a coach favorite last year. But maybe that'll change with Romeo heading up the defense.

Also, I'm doubtful about Cottom due to the neck injury. Has anyone heard anything in that regard?

How can you say that? He is clearly outplaying last year's #3 overall pick.

If you don't call a Dorsey a bust then you can't call Jackson a bust either

it's kinda hard to call a d-lineman a bust until after their third season. in college, all the top guys are used to just throwing their weight around and using sloppy technique to just dominate (normally overclassed) o-lineman. they can't do that in the nfl. they have to learn technique, more than one pass-rushing move, and sometimes how to even line up properly.

and that's all if they only have one d-line coach/defensive coordinator combination and aren't misused/change defenses each of your first two years in the league.

hell, that dorsey was as good as he was last year was a minor miracle.

Totally agree:thumb: