You and I are different though. I do use my touch primarily for getting on the net, then music, then games, then videos.

I can't do that on a Zune 30. As I said, when ZuneHD starts filling their store with apps like the Touch, then I will look at it.

also, does ZuneHD have a speaker or do you still have to have earphones to listen to anything.

Ok I'm going to ask a stupid question here....I don't keep up with all the new stuff what good does it do me to sync it to my computer? What benefit does that give me??? Like I said I don't keep up with everything....Thanks.

Syncing is merely the process of moving your music/videos/pictures from your computer to your device (in this case, the Zune). Wireless syncing is done over your Wi-Fi connection, eliminating the need for wires.

COWON COWON COWON COWON COWON COWON

Every time these threads come up, I mention it. Nothing even comes close if music is your priority. If you're looking for other pollutants like aps, a Cowon player is probably not for you.

My ****ing zune just died. Just got the J3 32gb Cowon. Oh, and MOTHER**** M$. Apparently there is a common issue with the 120gb 2nd Generation Zunes dying right after the warranty expires. This mother****ing thing, which I had 0 problems with until now and was treated very nicely, just died for no reason while I had it plugged into my xbox. The hard drive died and this mother****ing thing was 3 MOTHER****ING WEEKS OUT OF WARRANTY. AGAIN, **** STEVE BALMER AND **** M$ (except for windows 7 and xbox 360).

My Zune30 original is still going strong.

Not sure why you would want a speaker for something that small. It doesn't have one. Even if it did, a speaker that small would not have any kind of sound quality.

My 30GB Zune that I bought as a refurb on Woot.com about 3 years ago is still going strong. My only problem is that I want something a little smaller and with more capacity. But look around the internet sites that carry Zune 80s or Zune 120s and they are always out of stock. And I'm a little weary of buying one from somebody off Ebay. Screw you M$ and your control of the market! I assume this is done purposefully so they can push their new Zune HDs. The 64GB HD just came out (or is about to come out). But that damn thing is $350.

Enjoy FLAC :D

I don't need it for movies and music but when I am using an app or playing a game I don't want to mess with headphones. Its just more convenient with the speaker than without.

Five years later, Zune's troubled journey comes to an end


As of today, Zunes are no longer corporeal beings, Microsoft announced on zune.net. After five years of struggling uphill against a flood of Apple’s iPod products, Zune hardware is being discontinued, although the brand name will live on as the name of Microsoft’s media services.

Microsoft launched the Zune back in 2006, when Ars’ Nate Anderson called it “quite a compelling product,” though it showed “a strange schizophrenia of spirit” and its basic functionality was “crippled or poorly implemented”. Later versions of the Zune continued to improve but always seemed to fall short of a complete package.

The Zune branding was pushed through to Microsoft’s Zune Marketplace, where it eventually permeated XBox Live and Windows Phone. Microsoft says that, in the future, Windows Phone will be the center of its mobile music and video strategy; as a result, the company "will no longer be producing Zune players."

With the Zune gone, Microsoft has lost the potential to extend the Windows Phone platform to devices where consumers wouldn't face recurring costs or contracts, which Apple has in the iPod touch. Microsoft could still extend its mobile platform to non-phones, though the Windows Phone branding will make that a bit difficult.

The death of the hardware has been a long time coming, but Microsoft promises that current Zune owners will be able to continue their interactions with Zune services just as they do today. Likewise, any lucky patrons who recently placed an order for a Zune player through the Zune Originals website will still receive their shipment.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/...-to-an-end.ars

I sold my Zune a few weeks ago. I loved it but the Nexus S was better to hold my music on.

Sad to see the hardware go. It really is a fantastic product. At least the name will live on.

the zunes on the windows phone work ok. The software is pisses me off, it should be way easier to create a playlist.

Is a Cowon or iPod Classic pretty much it for large capacity MP3 players? I filled up my old 60G iPod Classic and want to see what my options are.