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KCrockaholic 07-05-2010 02:22 PM

This was a pretty good article aside from the Corey Mays ball washing... Then I got to the part about Carr being better than Flowers, and then it was trash.

Skyy God 07-05-2010 02:58 PM

You know, he was pretty spot on about suggesting our 3-4 should be more Dallas-like. And he wasn't far off of what many think our LB corp will look like on game 1 (Hali-DJ-Belcher-Studebaker). Makes up for the Carr and Mays garbage.

Oh, and thanks for reminding me that our nicklebacks last year sucked a bag of dicks.

MahiMike 07-05-2010 03:50 PM

I was pumped until I read, "3rd in the AFC West?" The AFC West must be freakin awesome.

Marcellus 07-05-2010 04:36 PM

Overall not a bad article but I'm not sure where the Carr, Mays, spread offense comments came from.

Weird how you can say many accurate in depth things about a team but then make odd and incorrect comments about other parts of the team.

OnTheWarpath15 07-05-2010 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 6860421)
I was pumped until I read, "3rd in the AFC West?" The AFC West must be freakin awesome.

That prediction is likely the most accurate thing he said in the entire piece.

Marcellus 07-05-2010 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6860475)
That prediction is likely the most accurate thing he said in the entire piece.

May be true but I look at this year like I did last year. SD should win the division and the other 3 could finish in any order.

There is no real reason to believe Denver or the Raiders are going to be more improved than KC. All 3 could be average or turds.

OnTheWarpath15 07-05-2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6860481)
May be true but I look at this year like I did last year. SD should win the division and the other 3 could finish in any order.

There is no real reason to believe Denver or the Raiders are going to be more improved than KC. All 3 could be average or turds.

Agree on Denver, disagree on Oakland.

Christ, they've beat us at home how many years in a row now? With Jamarcus ****ing Russell at QB?

They have the talent, they were just missing the QB.

Not saying that Jason Campbell is a sure-fire franchise QB, but he's capable of getting that team to 8-10 wins.

If we could stop the run, get to the passer, and had an even average QB, we'd get to 8-10 wins, IMO.

sandynme 07-05-2010 05:11 PM

**** anyone giving kc opinions from ny...thomas jones is gonna have to really show to wash the taste of the herman edwards experience from my memory

Brock 07-05-2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sandynme (Post 6860531)
**** anyone giving kc opinions from ny...thomas jones is gonna have to really show to wash the taste of the herman edwards experience from my memory

Yeah, we need somebody really informed like Adam Teicher.

seaofred 07-05-2010 05:32 PM

Can someone explain to me how Dorsey isn't strong enough to hold his position at DE, but would be an option at Nose. I would think you would need to be stronger to play nose than DE. Plus when Dorsey was a DT wouldn't that be more demanding than DE?

BossChief 07-05-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 6860548)
Can someone explain to me how Dorsey isn't strong enough to hold his position at DE, but would be an option at Nose. I would think you would need to be stronger to play nose than DE. Plus when Dorsey was a DT wouldn't that be more demanding than DE?

First off, Dorsey did hold his point at end. Just watch the Cleveland game when he wasnt there to see the difference between a defender not holding the point and when Glenn was there he was.

Dorsey is a good 2 gap defender, but IMO would be a defensive league MVP quality defender if used in the Ratliff role and Ive been saying that for a long time now. Ever since before Romeo was hired and there was a possibility of Wade Phillips getting let go in Dallas if he didnt win a playoff game, I have been clamoring about it. Its a tough pill to swallow that in this defense there really isn't a role that can take advantage of Dorseys biggest strengths. Its kinda like when Oakland ran a 2 gap 3-4 for a couple years while Sapp played there and how he didn't fit, but did fine in his role. Sapp still complains to this day about that.

In our defense the nose plays heads up on the center (known as the 0 technique) and is responsible for the gaps to either side of the center (known as the a gaps, that is also why the sheme is known as 2 gap, the DL are responsible for 2 gaps each) and to take on the center and guard to the side the play is ran to and to be responsible for those gaps in run defense as well as getting a push on the pocket to not allow the quarterback to step up in the pocket to escape pressure from the OLBs. This role on teams is usually taken by big 350 pound guys that are very strong, not 295 pound guys like Dorsey that their game is predicated on speed and leverage more than anything.

Dorseys strength is his first step and ability to use leverage to his advantage to disrupt plays in the backfield because he can get his body into the gap before the opposing guard and center could get set up in their stance. His first step is just as lethal as Warren Sapps once was and we arent using that strength one bit at the moment. That is what made him top five draft pick worthy, not his ability to take on blockers (which he can do adequately) and shed them to make the play.

Its a shame that is the case, but it speaks volumes to the kids character that he is rolling with it and giving everything he has to becoming successful in his role and keeps his eye on the prize. I think those of us that have been paying attention see a guy with very special potential to be a difference maker, just not as much as he could be in a different role.

hope that helped.

milkman 07-05-2010 08:00 PM

I stopped reading whe he called Corey Mays a run stopper.

Then I read the posts that talked about the writer saying that Haley brought the shotgun spread offense to KC, and that Carr is better than Flowers.

Holy shit!

LMAO

DeezNutz 07-05-2010 08:07 PM

The Carr bit is dumb as ****, but it's a little less ludicrous than all the posts last year about how the dude sucked and absolutely needed to be replaced.

milkman 07-05-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6860775)
The Carr bit is dumb as ****, but it's a little less ludicrous than all the posts last year about how the dude sucked and absolutely needed to be replaced.

I agree.

He wasn't outstanding, but he didn't suck and still has potential to develop into a damn good #2 corner.

BossChief 07-05-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6860775)
The Carr bit is dumb as ****, but it's a little less ludicrous than all the posts last year about how the dude sucked and absolutely needed to be replaced.

paging Billay and Mike Brown...you two need to report to Deez' office on the double!


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