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LaChapelle 08-21-2010 09:11 PM

Battle has that LJ moving in molasses thing going on
and like LJ use to makes yardage

Mr. Arrowhead 08-21-2010 09:12 PM

I thought Tamba was a beast tonight

DaneMcCloud 08-21-2010 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6947592)
I know this was not asked of me but I can't help myself.

Maybe both. Our run defense looked great with our starters. We moved the ball on offense. First drive got cut short on a Jones fumble that resulted in 3pts. We came back and scored a TD off a nice drive. If Flowers makes a tackle Tampa probably never gets their TD but he went high when he should have went low and we had a blitz on. Result was a 53 yard TD. We came back to tie it at the half, obviously.


Pass protection was much better. Defense was getting good pressure even with a 4 man rush. Carr still needs some work. Arena is the real ****ing deal on KR's, I will say that now.

I'll need to watch this game Monday on the NFL network instead of on a shitty computer, but I disagree completely with the idea that the Chiefs looked "great" on offense or defense.

Arenas set up the first touchdown and gave the Chiefs a VERY short field in which to score. After that, they couldn't do shit. The defense hardly pressured Tampa Bay's SECOND string QB and from what I could tell, Cadillac Williams barely played.

The Bucs passing game consistently carved up the Chiefs defense for big chunks in the first half. Mike Williams was catching everything in sight (including burning Flowers for a huge TD) but also on crossing and sideline patterns. Michael Clayton chipped in for a few nice passes and there was little to no pressure on Josh Johnson. In the few cases there was pressure Johnson either took off for a big gainer or step up into the pocket to make his throws.

Johnson is a second year, 5th rounder that made the Chiefs defense look as bad as normal. Keep in mind, this is a Tampa team that won three ****ing games last year and the Chiefs starters and backups failed to beat the Bucs starters and backups.

IMO, it was ****ing pathetic.

petegz28 08-21-2010 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6947613)
I'll need to watch this game Monday on the NFL network instead of on a shitty computer, but I disagree completely with the idea that the Chiefs looked "great" on offense or defense.

Arenas set up the first touchdown and gave the Chiefs a VERY short field in which to score. After that, they couldn't do shit. The defense hardly pressured Tampa Bay's SECOND string QB and from what I could tell, Cadillac Williams barely played.

The Bucs passing game consistently carved up the Chiefs defense for big chunks in the first half. Mike Williams was catching everything in sight (including burning Flowers for a huge TD) but also on crossing and sideline patterns. Michael Clayton chipped in for a few nice passes and there was little to no pressure on Josh Johnson. In the few cases there was pressure Johnson either took off for a big gainer or step up into the pocket to make his throws.

Johnson is a second year, 5th rounder that made the Chiefs defense look as bad as normal. Keep in mind, this is a Tampa team that won three ****ing games last year and the Chiefs starters and backups failed to beat the Bucs starters and backups.

IMO, it was ****ing pathetic.

Well, shickingly we are in disagreement. They hardly carved us up in the 1st half. They had about 20 yards or so more than us passing in the 1st half and 50+ of their yards came on a missed tackle. So I don't know where you got all of these big gainers from? We outrushed them and held the ball longer than them and that was with a turnover.

And yes, Arenas did set up a short field. So what? That's what he is there to do. And we capitalized on it like we should have by putting 7 on the board. We set up a short field for them when Jones fumbled and we held them to 3.

petegz28 08-21-2010 09:21 PM

Cassel goes 14-19 for 125 and a TD in the 1st half and people bitch.

Charles carried for about a 5 yard average and people bitch.

Bowe had a 10yd average and people bitch.

We hold them to 10 pts, 3 of which came off a turnover and 7 from a missed tackle and people bitch.

There was hardly anything to gripe about in the 1st half except Flowers making an ill-advised attempt at a high tackle.

Saul Good 08-21-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6947613)
I'll need to watch this game Monday on the NFL network instead of on a shitty computer, but I disagree completely with the idea that the Chiefs looked "great" on offense or defense.

Arenas set up the first touchdown and gave the Chiefs a VERY short field in which to score. After that, they couldn't do shit. The defense hardly pressured Tampa Bay's SECOND string QB and from what I could tell, Cadillac Williams barely played.

The Bucs passing game consistently carved up the Chiefs defense for big chunks in the first half. Mike Williams was catching everything in sight (including burning Flowers for a huge TD) but also on crossing and sideline patterns. Michael Clayton chipped in for a few nice passes and there was little to no pressure on Josh Johnson. In the few cases there was pressure Johnson either took off for a big gainer or step up into the pocket to make his throws.

Johnson is a second year, 5th rounder that made the Chiefs defense look as bad as normal. Keep in mind, this is a Tampa team that won three ****ing games last year and the Chiefs starters and backups failed to beat the Bucs starters and backups.

IMO, it was ****ing pathetic.

We fumbled in our own territory, and our defense held them to a field goal. Other than that, we have up one big play which turned into a long TD reception. 10 total points given up in the first half.

Matt Cassel completes 70+% of his passes for 125 yards, 1 TD, and 0 INTs for a rating of 108.

****ing pathetic is right.

Saul Good 08-21-2010 09:22 PM

I will say that out athleticism is greatly improved. It's nice seeing guys like Charles, McCluster, Arenas, and even Bowe with the ball in their hands.

petegz28 08-21-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6947646)
I will say that out athleticism is greatly improved. It's nice seeing guys like Charles, McCluster, Arenas, and even Bowe with the ball in their hands.

McCluster didn't handle the ball but I think twice, once went pretty much no where the other was a good gain.

Arenas did what we brought him here to do.

Charles is Charles

Mr. Arrowhead 08-21-2010 09:24 PM

This is Chiefsplanet, people would still bitch even if we won the Super bowl

DaneMcCloud 08-21-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6947637)
We fumbled in our own territory, and our defense held them to a field goal. Other than that, we have up one big play which turned into a long TD reception. 10 total points given up in the first half.

Matt Cassel completes 70+% of his passes for 125 yards, 1 TD, and 0 INTs for a rating of 108.

****ing pathetic is right.

Yeah, you're right. The degree of difficulty for a 6'5, 230 pound professionally trained athlete to throw the football 9-12 feet at a time is off the charts.

Cassel's inhuman.

OnTheWarpath15 08-21-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6947656)
Yeah, you're right. The degree of difficulty for a 6'5, 230 pound professionally trained athlete to throw the football 9-12 feet at a time is off the charts.

Cassel's inhuman.

More dink and dunk, eh?

petegz28 08-21-2010 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6947656)
Yeah, you're right. The degree of difficulty for a 6'5, 230 pound professionally trained athlete to throw the football 9-12 feet at a time is off the charts.

Cassel's inhuman.

If you have paid any attention you know I am not a Cassel fan. But JFC, Dane, he had a great game. I like a ball possession offense anyway. I would like to see us go deep more but ****, how you can complain about his performance tonight is beyond me?

Titty Meat 08-21-2010 09:27 PM

Cassel acutally played good tonight I know you guys won't see it through your bullshit colored Gunther glasses.

petegz28 08-21-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6947661)
More dink and dunk, eh?

Conservative but that is just how this offense is going to be. And that is fine with me as long as we move the ball. It eats time off the clock and keeps the legs of the defense fresh. Our running game looked good tonight. Say what you will that it was against Tampa but it looked good in the 1st half.

Titty Meat 08-21-2010 09:29 PM

Charlie Weis was brought in to throw down field


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