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Just Passin' By 07-14-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 6965115)
Hahahah Roger Clemens you fucking douchebag. At least Bonds had a deal w/ his guy who served time and wouldn't talk, and then gave him some outs by saying "I never knowingly did steroids". What an asshat. He deserves what he gets.

Clemens apparently deserved a mistrial.

MIAdragon 07-14-2011 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dinny Blues (Post 6965444)
I feel sorry for Pete Rose.

For cryin' out loud already.

Dinny

He will get in eventually.

Skyy God 07-14-2011 10:30 AM

Just drop it, DOJ. This is just embarrassing.

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The judge in the Roger Clemens federal perjury trial abruptly declared a mistrial on the second day of testimony after the government inadvertently allowed the jury to hear statements from a U.S. congressman questioning the credibility of one of the key witnesses against the former All-Star baseball pitcher.

U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton was livid Thursday that a video screen was left on in the courtroom while he and the lawyers privately discussed an issue away from the jury, and yet the jurors could clearly see written comments by U.S. Rep. Elijah E. Cummings (D-Md.) during a 2008 House hearing in which Clemens testified he never used steroids or other enhancement drugs.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,1724711.story

BigCatDaddy 07-14-2011 10:35 AM

Take notes Bautista.

kstater 07-14-2011 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pittsie (Post 7748083)
Just drop it, DOJ. This is just embarrassing.



http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,1724711.story

Brilliant move by the prosectution to get a new jury. The cousin of one of Clemens' old coaches was a jury member as well as a jury member that thought Michael Vick was "done wrong".

Skyy God 07-14-2011 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7748096)
Brilliant move by the prosectution to get a new jury. The cousin of one of Clemens' old coaches was a jury member as well as a jury member that thought Michael Vick was "done wrong".

Really? That was either an epically bad jury pool or a crap voire dire by the prosecution.

4th and Long 07-14-2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pittsie (Post 7748083)
The judge in the Roger Clemens federal perjury trial abruptly declared a mistrial on the second day of testimony after the government inadvertently allowed the jury to hear statements from a U.S. congressman questioning the credibility of one of the key witnesses against the former All-Star baseball pitcher.

U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton was livid Thursday that a video screen was left on in the courtroom while he and the lawyers privately discussed an issue away from the jury, and yet the jurors could clearly see written comments by U.S. Rep. Elijah E. Cummings (D-Md.) during a 2008 House hearing in which Clemens testified he never used steroids or other enhancement drugs.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...NhHmQNpfrNUaAw
Seriously?

Just Passin' By 07-14-2011 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7748096)
Brilliant move by the prosectution to get a new jury. The cousin of one of Clemens' old coaches was a jury member as well as a jury member that thought Michael Vick was "done wrong".

Criminal trial

likely Double Jeopardy ruling



How is that a brilliant move?

BigCatDaddy 07-14-2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 7748118)
Criminal trial

likely Double Jeopardy ruling



How is that a brilliant move?

I'm sure that only applies if it goes to verdict.

Just Passin' By 07-14-2011 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 7748122)
I'm sure that only applies if it goes to verdict.

You're wrong

BigCatDaddy 07-14-2011 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 7748126)
You're wrong

So you think Roger CAN NOT be charged again because of a mistrial?

I'm not a legal expert, but that doesn't make any sense.

notorious 07-14-2011 10:51 AM

:facepalm:

lcarus 07-14-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 7748136)
So you think Roger CAN NOT be charged again because of a mistrial?

I'm not a legal expert, but that doesn't make any sense.

I think you are right, but I don't know anything for certain.

Just Passin' By 07-14-2011 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 7748136)
So you think Roger CAN NOT be charged again because of a mistrial?

The judge hasn't yet ruled on it. However, it's likely that he'll rule that Roger cannot be tried again on the same charges. Clemens will either be free of this after the Sept. 2 hearing, or he'll have an obvious issue on appeal.

DJ's left nut 07-14-2011 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 7748118)
Criminal trial

likely Double Jeopardy ruling



How is that a brilliant move?

I won't say likely. I won't even go with probable.

'Possible', certainly. But the prosecution never even truly began it's case-in-chief, let alone wrapped it up. And as this case was clearly not decided based on the merits, I'm not sure how a court would determine there was any double jeopardy here.

The obvious issue is the fact that a jury was selected and there could be prejudice to the defendant by now subjecting him to a 2nd jury. But with the court having no earthly idea how jury 1 would have ruled (afterall, maybe this saves Rocket's ass), I think they would be reluctant to engage in that much speculation and call it a double-jeopardy matter.

Now this is bad prosecuting. That's probably the singled dumbest thing I've ever even heard of an attorney doing. It's just staggering that a US Attorney could've been that careless.

Somebody should lose their job over it, for sure.


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