If Weis utilizes our running game the way it should be and Cassel passes for anywhere near 3000 yards our offense will be top 12.

You are very mean. You hurt my fellings. I'm telling Mom and you're gonna get it !!! :deevee:

Dane should be celebrating this thread.

When it's bumped in December we'll have a good laugh and wonder if Cassel will hit 15 TD before the year is up.

Hope springs eternal...

(Unless you're Sports Racer, in which case you have long-abandoned it)

TYLER THIGPEN WILL COME BACK TO US, DAMMIT!

AND BY THE WAY THAT HYPHEN IS USED INCORRECTLY!!!! A HYPHEN WOULD MODIFY THOSE TWO WORDS INTO A SINGLE ADJECTIVE BUT YOU'RE JUST USING IT AS AN ADJECTIVE (LONG) AND A VERB (ABANDONED)!!!! IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO Yeah, no.

He looked pretty good in the preseason re-run I was watching today.

Here's mine:

1. There will be more posts between week 1 and week 17 of this season pointing out how bad he sucks than he will have individual yards passing.

2. He will get boo'd loudly at Arrowhead at least 2x.

3. There will be more games in which he sucks and declared he played well than instances where he points out what he could improve.

4. He'll play well enough that we'll be out of reach of Locker, Luck or Mallett.

Hooray.

DID HE LOOK THIGNIFICENT????

This was actually a comparison I made before the '09 season, and I think it stands up in some ways now, but not in others.

Similarities: Green did play in college, so he has Cassel in that regard, but he didn't play in the NFL - at all - until his 6th season. His arm strength was questioned (here) from day one (and in fact throughout his entire tenure in KC), there was concern that he threw too much to backs and tight ends instead of attacking downfield and he had a reputation for holding the ball too long and taking a lot of sacks (49 with the Redskins in '98, 24 in just 8 games with StL in '00, and then 39 his first season here).

Differences: Green showed much, much more in isolated spurts in 2001 than Cassel did in 2009. Green had 3 games where he exceeded 70% completions (Cassel had 1), 4 more where he was 60% or better (Cassel had 3), and he had 8 games where he threw in excess of 250 yards (Cassel had 3).

There is one final similarity of note: in the 2002 preseason, Green's performance was a real mixed bag. He came out hot (11-15 for 113 yards and a TD combined the first two weeks), but looked like complete shit the last two games (13-32 for 120 yards and 5 INT). Suffice to say, we weren't exactly jumping for joy about his play...

That said, there were moments in 2001 and early in the 2002 preseason where Green looked like a quarterback out there. I don't know how else to describe it. He was just the guy in charge on the field. It was obvious. And that's what I haven't seen from Cassel, not with any kind of consistency. No confidence, no swagger, no taking charge of the huddle, no intangible aura of leadership, none of that, except for (in my opinion) the Tampa Game this preseason. I thought that game was the best he's looked in a Chiefs uniform, he had a command of the offense, of the game, that I don't recall seeing any other time. In any case, that's the "it" that people talk about, and I think Green had shown signs in 2001. Cassel did not.

And that's what will determine everything, I think. He literally has a lot of the same 'problems' that Green had, the question is whether he can develop the presence that Trent had, and at this point in time I just have no earthly idea whether he can or not. Although I'd have to say I'm leaning more towards "not", because I haven't seen many signs pointing toward it.

THIGNORANCE IS BLISS!

He could do it. If we catch 40 of the 50 we dropped last year he would have done this.

He was when we had Roaf and Shields. When we lost them his fundamentals went to hell while he was scrambling for his life. He lasted all of what, two games and effectively had his career ended.

He can't do it. That is why Weis dumbed down the passing attack. Weis is no fool.

I agree with this. Green, though he had a pretty bad 1st season here, still showed flashes. He looked confident. Cassel looks uncomfortable, even with time to throw.

I haven't really seen anything that makes me think Cassel will be any better than Damon Huard. At least Huard looked more comfortable out there, even if he sucked.

If Cassel has the season that the OP predicts, this team will be in the division hunt. Those stats probably would have given us 2-3 more wins last year. And I think this team is better equipped this year.