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Farzin 09-17-2010 05:30 PM

I don't want to get off topic, but it's bugging me..

Jamaal Charles has worked his tail off and has done a lot to help this football team (especially last year when he was the only offensive player who should have gone to the Pro Bowl.) Charles helped lift the team up this season for the first regular season touchdown by a Chief from 56 yards.

He is still sitting with a crappy contract, and Studebaker gets an extension? This isn't to bash Studebaker. Good for him.. Do the Chiefs not want to keep Charles? :shrug:

DaneMcCloud 09-17-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Farzin (Post 7012684)
I don't want to get off topic, but it's bugging me..

Jamaal Charles has worked his tail off and has done a lot to help this football team (especially last year when he was the only offensive player who should have gone to the Pro Bowl.) Charles helped lift the team up this season for the first regular season touchdown by a Chief from 56 yards.

He is still sitting with a crappy contract, and Studebaker gets an extension? This isn't to bash Studebaker. Good for him.. Do the Chiefs not want to keep Charles? :shrug:

Keep him? What do you mean? Without a CBA, he isn't eligible for free agency until 2014.

He's not going anywhere.

BossChief 09-17-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7012630)
That's the money you give a rotational player. I think they view this as a low-risk, high reward type deal for the Chiefs, but I don't think they are counting on him being a 10-12 sack guy, either.

What rotational linebackers make 1.5-2 million dollars per year?

I may be wrong, but that seems a bit off.

Im really not trying to argue, I honestly dont know and would like to.

-King- 09-17-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Farzin (Post 7012684)
I don't want to get off topic, but it's bugging me..

Jamaal Charles has worked his tail off and has done a lot to help this football team (especially last year when he was the only offensive player who should have gone to the Pro Bowl.) Charles helped lift the team up this season for the first regular season touchdown by a Chief from 56 yards.

He is still sitting with a crappy contract, and Studebaker gets an extension? This isn't to bash Studebaker. Good for him.. Do the Chiefs not want to keep Charles? :shrug:

Studebakers contract is easy to do since he's not a big time player so contract discussions won't be a distraction. But Jamaal is the prime time guy on this team so Pioli likely wants to wait until the off season.

DaneMcCloud 09-17-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7012689)
What rotational linebackers make 1.5-2 million dollars per year?

I may be wrong, but that seems a bit off.

Im really not trying to argue, I honestly dont know and would like to.

I'm sure a shit ton make that amount. That's nothing.

BossChief 09-17-2010 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Farzin (Post 7012684)
I don't want to get off topic, but it's bugging me..

Jamaal Charles has worked his tail off and has done a lot to help this football team (especially last year when he was the only offensive player who should have gone to the Pro Bowl.) Charles helped lift the team up this season for the first regular season touchdown by a Chief from 56 yards.

He is still sitting with a crappy contract, and Studebaker gets an extension? This isn't to bash Studebaker. Good for him.. Do the Chiefs not want to keep Charles? :shrug:

how closely did you follow the Chris Johnson situation?

BossChief 09-17-2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7012691)
I'm sure a shit ton make that amount. That's nothing.

I bet there aren't many his age that do. Vested vets, sure.

Can you provide 5 examples or rotational linebackers 25-26 making that kinda bread?

DaneMcCloud 09-17-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7012697)
I bet there aren't many his age that do. Vested vets, sure.

Can you provide 5 examples or rotational linebackers 25-26 making that kinda bread?

That's just not that much money, dude.

League minimum for a fourth year player is $550k.

There are teams like the Vikings and Cowboys that have $150 million dollar payrolls for 53 guys. Even though it's not all "even", that's nearly $3 million a guy.

This is a tiny contract.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-17-2010 05:52 PM

Here's a list of every linebacker's salary in 2009.

http://content.usatoday.com/sports/f...n.aspx?pos=150

26 players made between 1.25 and 2 million dollars. Cut out some rookie contracts and you still have a shitload of players.

Some are older, some are younger, but a lot of players fit into that salary grouping.

NB: Those are cap values. The actual amounts, with bonuses, etc, will vary.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-17-2010 05:55 PM

Hunter Hillenmeyer, Ricky Brown, Pierre Woods, Rashad Jeanty, Na'il Diggs. These are the kinds of guys who get paid like Studebaker.

BossChief 09-17-2010 05:55 PM

Im not trying to argue it, but guards and linebackers get the least amount of the money out of those payrolls.

Id like to see some examples to see who they paid him comparatively to.

I nailed it when I showed Aaron Rodgers (6/65) was who they looked as a comparable guy to Cassel when they did his deal (and failed epically) and Id like to see who they comparatively paid Studebaker to.

That's all.

He wil make more than Clay Matthews this year according to rotoworld and his total value of the deal is more than Curtis Lofton signed for as a second rounder. He will make more than Jon Beason this year as well and he was a first rounder and is the same age... Just a couple examples.

BossChief 09-17-2010 05:56 PM

I posted that before I saw Hamas' posts

BossChief 09-17-2010 06:02 PM

Cushing and Tutupu are other guys he is getting paid like.

Im trying to keep it to players of similar age and pay rate

DaneMcCloud 09-17-2010 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7012733)
Cushing and Tutupu are other guys he is getting paid like.

Im trying to keep it to players of similar age and pay rate

Both of those guys got signing bonuses, so their yearly salaries appear smaller to fit under the cap.

Chiefaholic 09-17-2010 08:33 PM

IMO... Studebaker raise is just about right for what he does on the field. He worked his ass off during the offseason, and it shows. He's a playmaker on special teams in the Gary Stills / Mike Maslowski mold and a respectable (not great) pass rusher on situational plays. Good for him and thanks to Hunt for showing the team that solid play on the field and offseason commitment pays off.


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