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Fritz88 09-26-2010 12:35 PM

I want to see him doing the same against great Defenses. He should deliver.

For now, I'll drink piss.

Ming the Merciless 09-26-2010 12:36 PM

I'm not gonna eat shit yet...But I am gonna put it on a plate and start getting my fork and knife....maybe a tortilla and a little salsa...


He looks amazing. I thought he was a gimmick......wow....

Saul Good 09-26-2010 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7038559)
Try being intellectually honest next time.

I assume you'll give Pioli 3 years to see if his moves pan out, then, even if you disagree with them.

Saul Good 09-26-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 7038568)
I want to see him doing the same against great Defenses. He should deliver.

For now, I'll drink piss.

49ers don't qualify?

the Talking Can 09-26-2010 12:47 PM

as soon as people apologize for the entirety of the 2009 draft

sure

we were wrong about a slot wr

pioli was wrong about the franchise qb

Reaper16 09-26-2010 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7038653)
I assume you'll give Pioli 3 years to see if his moves pan out, then, even if you disagree with them.

What moves? Are you referring to Cassel? That is a move of a different sort than a draft pick.

milkman 09-26-2010 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7038056)
I won't eat shit on the pick until I see McCluster healthy and productive in his third season. I will, however, cheer him on and hope that he gets there.

This

Ming the Merciless 09-26-2010 12:55 PM

wooooooooooo nice TD

BossChief 09-26-2010 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7038689)
What moves? Are you referring to Cassel? That is a move of a different sort than a draft pick.

He has a point.

Reaper16 09-26-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7038785)
He has a point.

I don't want to clutter up this love thread with this, but... what point is is that he has?

Saul Good 09-26-2010 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7038689)
What moves? Are you referring to Cassel? That is a move of a different sort than a draft pick.

Any of them. Cassel sucks, but that was still the right move. It just hasn't worked out. Vrabel has been surprisingly effective as well.

God, do we need a QB. It pisses me off that we even have to discuss Cassel.

Reaper16 09-26-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7038821)
Any of them. Cassel sucks, but that was still the right move. It just hasn't worked out. Vrabel has been surprisingly effective as well.

God, do we need a QB. It pisses me off that we even have to discuss Cassel.

It was the "right move" to trade for a demonstrably awful 27-year-old QB instead of drafting one? That was the WRONG move, no matter how good or bad Cassel would be for the Chiefs.

BossChief 09-26-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7038809)
I don't want to clutter up this love thread with this, but... what point is is that he has?

if you (or anyone else) aren't gonna give credit for DexFactor being a good pick because of time and longevity ...you have to do the same for his other moves...this really shouldn't need further explanation.

Reaper16 09-26-2010 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7038881)
if you (or anyone else) aren't gonna give credit for DexFactor being a good pick because of time and longevity ...you have to do the same for his other moves...this really shouldn't need further explanation.

Note that longevity was one of the biggest knocks on McCluster, specifically.

Still, the key word is "yet." I'm not ready to call the McCluster or Arenas picks good YET. Because of how opposed they are to viable conceptions of draft value. Berry is different. He could bust and the pick would still be good.

With the other picks in the 2010 (and 2009) drafts I will not call them good until they prove that they were worth eschewing draft value for. I am also not prepared to say that I am right about those picks until I am proven right.

Saul Good 09-26-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7038879)
It was the "right move" to trade for a demonstrably awful 27-year-old QB instead of drafting one? That was the WRONG move, no matter how good or bad Cassel would be for the Chiefs.

A starting QB and starting LB for a second round pick is a good move. I was never a fan of Cassel, but I was hoping that he would work out. It was great value for what we gave up, and the upside was huge.


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