No offense, Tardian, but when the NFL's own draft site compares him to Warren Sapp, when he picks up 171 tackles from an interior line position, and when he has 13 sacks as a DT, including 7 as a senior in the SEC, playing in scheme where he both two gapped and one gapped, and when he was projected as a top-3 talent in the draft, it's pretty obvious what his talents were projected to be: a penetrating defensive tackle.

Put it this way: if personnel guys thought that he wasn't a penetrator, he wouldn't have even been considered a top five pick.

And I said before the draft it was a ****ing stupid comparison, and one that hasn't come to fruition in the NFL.

Lots of dumb comparisons are made every year. I remember when people compared Koren Robinson to Randy Moss from a talent perspective.

Just because someone says he should be a penetrating defensive tackle, doesn't mean that what he is. Personnel guys **** up every year. Otherwise no one drafts busts in the first round.

Regardless of Dorsey's stats, all you had to do was watch him in college. I can tell by your posts, you didn't. You're just regurgitating what those guys wrote. It never made sense to me because Dorsey is not a natural pass rusher in college and doesn't transition from one technique to the other very well with his hands. His hips also don't bend in the way Sapp's do where Sapp would get that inside move on a guy. Dorsey doesn't have that. This is the difference between watching and understanding what you are looking at, and just spewing shit some guys wrote.

Dorsey plays like a barge, where Sapp played like a race boat. Their abilities and what they do best aren't even remotely close. The only reason for the comparison was because they are built similarly. That's it.

Not to interrupt, but Haley talks a little bit about Dorsey and Haley in his last presser. It's interesting to see Haley "light up" a little when he discusses both players ... at the 7:30 mark, he's talking about Tamba ... it's pretty clear that Haley's in love ..

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center...a-95c6bff281f0

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Nevermind the large number of different draft sites making the comparison.

Nevermind the college stats that clearly back up the reasons for the comparison.

Tardian watched him play. Something that evidently nobody else did. So that's that. Everybody else is obviously wrong...

Who has been right?

And did it ever occur to you that a lot of the draft sites just repeat each other you dumb ****?

Sure bud. Keep telling yourself that you're right and everyone else is wrong. Hold that anger nice and tight.

Ummmmm who has been right?

Thanks for playing.

This would hold up far better if you had actually been here to tell us that everyone else was wrong when Dorsey was drafted.

Being right after the fact is really not all that impressive.

Not to try to back one side of an argument by posting youtube videos, but damn near every single one features him shooting one gap, not controlling two gaps.

Not saying he didnt do it, he did, but it wasnt what he was drafted so high for...that w2as because he was extremely disruptive while shooting gaps.

obviously...

He did to play some 1 gap, but it was rare. And he did not get to get after QB's in college. It was his JOB to maintain gap control.

Second, if you watch him you will notice that he plays a real hip forward style. Sapp had very fluid hips that bent really well. Almost like a defensive end. Dorsey does not have that ability. He plays a very hip forward style where Sapp had the ability to do that, but also had the ability to bend at the waist and twist his hips to do a lot of interior pass rushing and beat guys with it. That's really a genetic thing, not something a guy can be taught.

Second, Dorsey doesn't transition well with his hands in pass rushing, and never has. Sapp was a natural at it.

The reasons for the comparisons was because of stats and build. But that is really where the comparisons end. The aren't similar players in their style and ability at all. Randy Moss and Fitz could have similar seasons and be of similar size, but their style of play couldn't be more different. It's ridiculous to make comparisons based on those things.

i always wondered how a gap would taste...

probably pretty gamey...

Roid rage, FTW.

Ah, it looks like I struck a nerve with the clown who claims to have me on ignore.

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That's a JUCO backup-quality comeback, folks. Enjoy.

1st round talent at every level of our D.:clap: Add in DJ and Berry and this D is loaded. If TJ can make strides like Doresy has over this year and the offseason our D could end up sick.

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