Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 7106021)

I agree that hits to the head can be "caused" by the receiving player ducking. There is also the fight between offensive and defensive players to get low for leverage and, for the defender, to get under a ducking offensive player wtih the ball in an effort to dislodge the ball and cause a fumble.

The answer is that the NFL does not give a flying f**k about those issues. Their answer, really, is that if you want to do anything more aggressive than "wrapping up" the player, then you better make absolutely goddamn sure you don't hit his head. Forearm shivers to the head are OUT. Shoulders to the head are OUT. Head to anything is OUT. Launching is OUT.

And to be honest, while we can all sit here and make comments about putting skirts on players and all that, it doesn't take too many viewings of a Kevin Turner (former Patriots player who now has ALS, or Chris Henry, the Bengals player who died, had an autopsy perofrmed, and became the 50th person diagnosed with a condition caused by repeated severe brain trauma.




http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5333971


So yeah, ultimately, I'm good with it.

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7106047)

Great point George.

It just shows you how "open to interpretation" alot of this stuff is. Plus, when this stuff is happening at about 100 miles per hour in real time, it makes it 10 times harder to get a call correct.

Originally Posted by Huffman83 (Post 7106045)

BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT! That hit that was "clean." according to the video was called as a penalty. Page knocked that guys dick in the dirt "legally." and they still called it a penalty.

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 7106055)

I agree it was a clean hit.
It was a GREAT hit.

But on that day, Page was called for Roughness. And it lead to a NY Giants TD.

Turned the whole game.

Now they're saying its clean, but it didn't help us that day one bit.

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 7106055)

I agree it was a clean hit.
It was a GREAT hit.

But on that day, Page was called for Roughness. And it lead to a NY Giants TD.

Turned the whole game.

Now they're saying its clean, but it didn't help us that day one bit.

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 7106053)

This is so wrong.

What should happen is that after a KO hit, the player should stand over the destroyed victim and look up to the Owner's box for the Thumbs up or Thumbs down to Finish him or show mercy.

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 7106055)

I agree it was a clean hit.
It was a GREAT hit.

But on that day, Page was called for Roughness. And it lead to a NY Giants TD.

Turned the whole game.

Now they're saying its clean, but it didn't help us that day one bit.

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7106013)

I don't really see how the Ray Lewis hit was much different than the others. He still launched which was one of the buzz words of the video.

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 7106168)

I believe the definition of "launching" is when the player leaves his feet. Not sure though…
Either way, it's a matter of inches and split seconds between a dirty and a league approved good clean hit.