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Sweet Daddy Hate 11-04-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7145546)
Collinsworth said about as many boneheaded things as Simms did. Personally, I thought Simms actually raised some good points other than the good arm remark

Collinsworth has ALWAYS made me want to vomit.

arrowheadnation 11-04-2010 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 7145538)
I'd love to agree with Phil Simms, I'd really love too. But he lost me when he said Matt has a great arm. Anyone who has watched every snap of every Chiefs games knows damn well better than that.

Yeah, I liked Gus on our last play at the end of regulation the other day. He said something like "Cassel has a huge arm, this is where he's dangerous"

Mr. Flopnuts 11-04-2010 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7145557)
I think he said "good" not "great".

Okay, I watched it again. You're right. Does that really invalidate my post?

Phobia 11-04-2010 03:22 PM

I enjoy Collinsworth's color. He's pretty enlightening during a game when he's on his game. But I can't stand him otherwise.

-King- 11-04-2010 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 7145564)
Okay, I watched it again. You're right. Does that really invalidate my post?

Cassel has a average to good arm so it's not like he's wrong. What Cassel struggles with is his accuracy.

Phobia 11-04-2010 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by aarowheadnation (Post 7145563)
Yeah, I liked Gus on our last play at the end of regulation the other day. He said something like "Cassel has a huge arm, this is where he's dangerous"

Gus said about midway through the second quarter - "This is right where the Chiefs wanted to be in this game".... uh - yeah, tied 0-0 with the worst team in the league.

Phobia 11-04-2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 7145569)
Cassel has a average to good arm so it's not like he's wrong. What Cassel struggles with is his accuracy.

Of course he does. He plays QB in the NFL.

Have you ever heard a commentator say "oh that guy has a terrible arm" or "his arm is below average"?

Having a good arm somewhat implies accuracy for me. What good is a cannon if you can't put it where it needs to be?

Chiefs Rool 11-04-2010 03:28 PM

Jesus, they don't know crap about the Chiefs except that we have a good running game.

yhf 11-04-2010 03:29 PM

Of all ****ing people, Warren Sapp seemed fairly evenhanded in his evaluation. Gotta give credit where it is due, Cassle is far from being a great QB at this time but at times he has been a large factor in the teams success. Yeah yeah I know he has failed at critical times as well but don't be blind to his contributions.

007 11-04-2010 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7145562)
Collinsworth has ALWAYS made me want to vomit.

Generally I like collinsworth but it is clear from this video that neither one of them have actually taken the time to watch any chiefs games and were just using talking points.

DMAC 11-04-2010 03:31 PM

That was a debate based entirely off of stats and rankings.

gblowfish 11-04-2010 03:32 PM

Collinsworth has never liked the Chiefs because Albert Lewis and Kevin Ross used to bitch slap him whenever we played Cincy. Simms will stand up for any NFL QB, because he used to BE an NFL QB. Sapp usually poo-poo's KC, but at least he got a taste of what KC-Oakland rivalry is all about, and I think for that reason he's backed off a bit this week. Also, beating them seven times in a row in Oakland is big. Nobody's ever beaten Oakland 8 times in a row in Oakland, so that'll be huge if we can pull it off.

evolve27 11-04-2010 03:32 PM

Nice find on the video. Collinsworth and Sapp have it on the money with their beginning and closing statements. However, Sapp used to be a ****ing Faider, so I take it for what it is.

Rausch 11-04-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by evolve27 (Post 7145593)
Nice find on the video. Collinsworth and Sapp have it on the money.

Still see..........****ing...........hate Goatse........

crazycoffey 11-04-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 7145538)
I'd love to agree with Phil Simms, I'd really love too. But he lost me when he said Matt has a great arm. Anyone who has watched every snap of every Chiefs games knows damn well better than that.

Yeah, I thought the same thing, LOL

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 7145554)
I hate to say this, because I think Collinsworth is a douche, but in this case, his opinion is the closest to reality.

I don't know what Simms has been watching. But our passing offense is dink and dunk. We all know that, and we all know we need to run and run and run and run. And when we don't the drives sputter.

closest to reality, yup - but still ****ing off his rocker with a pessimistic outlook, Absolutely. I think Mecca is really Collinsworth sometimes.....


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