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siberian khatru 11-15-2010 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7174138)
Regardless of whether or not that was true, this game wasn't lost on offense.

Shouldn't you be concentrating on moderating instead of analyzing football?

Sully 11-15-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 7173960)
I seem to recall a lot of "run, run, pass" series when we were only down 7-0. Charles wasn't doing anything and Jones was doing even less than that. The entire game, our running game just wasn't working as it was in the past.

A lot of run, run, pass series before it was more than 7-0?
Wasn't that two series?

Chiefnj2 11-15-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sully (Post 7174179)
A lot of run, run, pass series before it was more than 7-0?
Wasn't that two series?

Actually, after one KC possession, it was 14-0.

Sully 11-15-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7174183)
Actually, after one KC possession, it was 14-0.

Corrected, I stand!

jd1020 11-15-2010 11:29 AM

When the Chiefs are behind because their defense cant stop a peewee team and the run is getting stuffed its almost a gaurenteed loss. You cant count on Cassel to sustain drives to ice the opposing teams offense and give your D a rest. Weis/Haley just need to come up with ways to get the ball in the hands of their best offensive player (Charles) when the Oline cant create a hole. They wanted to go down field every pass and as soon as a pass rush comes within 5 yards of Cassel he stutter steps backwards and sidearms a pass into the abyss. Or he'll leave the box and take a sack.

Ming the Merciless 11-15-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsNow (Post 7173949)
before the game was out of hand. Even when we were down by 21 to zip, we should have stuck with the run.

Oh so thats why we ,lost. Thanks for clearing that up.

:doh!:

LaChapelle 11-15-2010 11:39 AM

Oakland 6(?) 3 and 1 fail
Denver can't get it in on the 1 yard line on 3 trys
?

InChiefsHeaven 11-15-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by LaChapelle (Post 7174449)
Oakland 6(?) 3 and 1 fail
Denver can't get it in on the 1 yard line on 3 trys
?

I don't understand your post...:spock:

Deberg_1990 11-15-2010 11:46 AM

Heres KC's game log on 3rd down in the 1st half...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore...007&page=plays

3rd-12, KC40 9:09 M. Cassel incomplete pass down the middle

3rd-4, KC27 2:51 M. Cassel incomplete pass to the right

3rd-3, DEN27 14:06 M. Cassel sacked by M. Haggan

3rd-5, DEN41 8:57 J. Charles rushed to the left for 7 yard gain

2nd-10, DEN34 7:43 M. Cassel sacked by J. Hunter. Denver committed 15 yard penalty

1st-8, DEN8 5:48 M. Cassel sacked by M. Haggan. M. Cassel fumbled. J. Hunter recovered fumble and returned for 75 yards


After that it was 35 to zip....

jd1020 11-15-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 7174464)
I don't understand your post...:spock:

Pretty sure hes trying to point out the Chiefs offensive failures in the last 2 games. With the 3-1 's in Oakland and the goal line failure in Denver.

LaChapelle 11-15-2010 12:05 PM

The Chiefs run game ain't what it use to be
they've been figured out or the 0-line aint getting it done
The ball is in Cassel's court to loosen up the D /panic button denial

milkman 11-16-2010 09:22 AM

You're a n00b, but that's no excuse for being a dumbass.

Just when I thought dumbassey couldn't reach any lower level.

Rausch 11-16-2010 09:28 AM

I agree.

Panicked teams without an identity flounder around and dump the game plan once behind.

There is a reason you stick with the running game (if that's how you're built.)

Pitt and Bmore and a number of others might lose a game here or there but they're in Championship games because they know who they are and play to it...

SenselessChiefsFan 11-16-2010 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefless (Post 7173956)
I'm afraid the days of big rushing totals is over until the Chiefs find a consistent counter to stacked lines and rush-bitzes.

It is no coincidence that the Chiefs struggles in the run game have come while McCluster has been out. This isn't to excuse their inefficiency. Any team should overcome the loss of any single player.

But, it has magnified just how over-matched the offensive line is still. Add in Waters and Lilja being less than 100%, and it is not surprising.

Guys forget that defenses get stretched vertically AND horizontally. McCluster does a good job of spreading defenses horizontally.

The Chiefs are in the second year of the program. Todd Haley was honest the entire time when he said the Chiefs 'aren't' a good team yet.

The Franchise 11-16-2010 10:12 AM

Waters is done.

Are Lilja and Asamoah strictly RGs or can either one play LG?


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