Start winning games because of him and not in spite of him. Consistently. Especially in the playoffs.

not true at all.

people in KC bashed the hell out of trent green in 2001.

In 2002 he turned things around because he got help around him, and he became a good solid QB to the point ''most'' people in KC liked him. Not to mention he's a class act and intelligent individual (not that MC isn't).

Point is, Green was able to improve and Cassel isn't. People are pissed off he was paid a ton of money to shit the bed.

I would qualify that with leading the Cheifs to more than one game winning drive, when it's not a no lose situation.

That drive against Buffalo was a no lose situation.

Don't let facts get in the way of a Cassel bashing thread /CP

Make proper reads and follow progressions.
Stop advertising who you are throwing to by never looking at other receivers.
Get some pocket presence.
Don't take sacks and throw the ball away.
Throw with accuracy and lead receivers rather than always throwing behind them.

The lobotomy and re-education alone would take years. I don't think we have time to fix this subject.

He needs to:

Not lock onto just 1 WR
Needs to learn when the throw the ball away
Needs to be more accurate
Needs to just not be such a ****ing moron behind center.

1. He needs to check down on WR's rather than stare down his target and tip off the defense.

2. His accuracy needs to improve dramatically on a consistant basis.

3. He stands in the pocket waaaaaaay too long, thus getting sacked and causing holding calls.

4. He throws into tight coverage too damn much (created from staring down his WR) when other options are wide the **** open.

5. His throwing mechanics are a ****ing joke when he goes through a wind up like a MLB pitcher

We don't have to have a Peyton Manning type of QB to be a legit playoff team. A Trent Green would be good enough with the running game and defense.

My memory is cloudy but didn't he have a game winning drive against PIT last year?

And this. He needs to smell the roses more than anything IMO.

Yes. He looked like Joe Montana as he dumped the ball to Chris Chambers six yards down the field.

Thus the reason for qualifying that it has to be more than one game winning drive.


Even Steve Bono made one huge late game drive in his career.

The fact is, because defenses are in prevent in most of the situations we are talking about, that is how these drives have to be engineered.

Oh yeah, definately. I saw V Young have a particulary nice game winning drive last year IIRC, and I don't want that fail anywhere near my team.

Regardless, I'm not giving credit to Cassel for a "game-winning drive" when all he did was complete one dump off pass.

Pretty much.