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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 7565137)

We will not draft a QB. Maybe on the 7th but not before that.

The patriots already had Brady and Cassel and spent a third on Kevin Oconnell.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7565196)

The patriots already had Brady and Cassel and spent a third on Kevin Oconnell.

Clearly, they didn't believe in Brady because there's no way they were drafting over the top of Cassel.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7557309)

1. Derek Sherrod, OT; Mississippi State: 6'5", 321 lbs.
- Big, athletic and intelligent. Experienced and played against top pass rushers/ends his entire career. Very intuitive and equally good in both the run and pass. Has all the intangibles and should play at a high level at either tackle spot.

2. Sam Acho, OLB/DE; Texas: 6'2", 259 lbs.
- An athletic and smart combo end who won nearly every leadership, academic and sportsmanship award there is in 2010 including the Campbell Trophy. Team captain. Had 9 sacks and led the nation with 5 fumble recoveries in 2010. Has very good change of direction as well as a good initial burst and size/strength to drive the point of attack. Has the potential to be a very effective 3-4 LOLB. This guy defines hard work, character and on-the-field production.

3. Jerrell Powe, NT; Ole Miss: 6'3", 335 lbs.
- Massive and strong, Powe was a Rebels team captain in 2010. Did not qualify academically his first two years of college because of an undiagnosed dyslexia situation, but he stuck with it and ended up playing all four years. A former high school Army All-American. Much better character and work ethic at the same size than a guy like Phil Taylor.

4. Vincent Brown, WR; San Diego State: 5'11", 187 lbs.
- With long arms and huge hands, Brown plays substantially bigger than his frame suggests. A classic possession type receiver that knows how to get open, make the hard catch and find the end zone. Had 1300+ yards and 10 touchdowns in 2010. Ran a 4.58 40 and posted a 36 inch vertical at his pro day.

5. Zane Taylor, C; Utah: 6'3", 313 lbs.
- First team all-conference as both player and academic. Team captain. Three year starter at center. Very strong (41 reps at 225 at his Pro Day), smart and experienced. Is very effective is standing up even the biggest nose tackles (watch his performance as a sophomore against Terrance Cody in the 2009 Fiesta Bowl - just annihilates the bigger Cody play after play). Excellent work ethic.

5. Ricky Stanzi, QB; Iowa: 6'4", 223 lbs.
- After several lackluster years, Stanzi had a very good senior season in 2010 setting a school single season record for passing efficiency. 25 TDs against 6 INTs in 2010 and went 26-9 as a starter. Excellent size and good leadership.

6. Darius Morris, OT; Temple: 6'4", 318 lbs.
- First team all-conference after starting all 12 games in 2010 at right tackle for the Owls (started 11 games at RT in 2009).

7. Robert Hughes, RB/FB; Notre Dame: 5'11", 240 lbs.
- Former High School All-American at running back, he has very good hands and elusiveness in the open field. Is also adapt at using his tree stump frame to smash through the line in short yardage situations. Really fits the Haley system in terms of a versatile fullback.

not bad, although 1st and 4th round picks i think we could do better even staying at the same positions.

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7565224)

Clearly, they didn't believe in Brady because there's no way they were drafting over the top of Cassel.

the main point is that Pioli/BB valued the backup quarterback position at the level of a 3rd round pick at the time (even having a multiple superbowl winning player under long term contract) and I doubt that has changed after what Cassel has done thus far with KC.

If we are trying to assess possible value for the position, that's likely it.

I've said this before, I believe KC's s"surprise" pick could be Stephen Paea. He has everything Pioli wants. IMO, he's not necessarily small because he is as wide as he is tall ( 6'1" 311 lbs) with his strength he'll never lose the leverage battle.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7564421)

I think if the Chiefs are picking up a QB in the later rounds, they need to look for a guy who is solid starting material that has some potential beyond that. Stanzi, Tolzien of Wisconsin and McElroy of Alabama would be the guys that should be available around there that would fit that profile. Solid QB's that didn't put up huge numbers because of a reliance on a run based offense that do have solid prep pedigrees and did what was asked of them within the confines of their college programs. If they want to go with an athlete and try to groom them into a NFL level guy, Adam Weber of Minnesota or Tyrod Taylor of Virginia Tech wouldn't be a bad way to go. (Taylor might be the next Brad Smith, but Weber, with some good coaching, has a chance to be a real QB at the next level. He's shown he can light guys up through the air and has really good athleticism to boot.) Josh Portis might have been the next Cam Newton if he had one more year of eligibility, but he might be worth a look as well.

Having seen a lot of McElroy and Josh Portis, I can safely predict that McElroy is not NFL staring material and Portis won't be an NFL QB at all.

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7565403)

not bad, although 1st and 4th round picks i think we could do better even staying at the same positions.

I don't know...Sherrod is pretty impressive. Keeps his center, moves his feet extremely well and keeps his guy in front of him. He's got the strength to hold up the initial defender and pop him back plus the athleticism to pick up a secondary defender if he has to. Pretty solid player.

I really wouldn't mind Sherrod, Costanzo or Carimi with that pick (listed in order of personal preference). I think that any of those three would represent a high value pick at the 21st spot. I'm not as high on Solder or Smith.

And Vincent Brown can play. Great hands. Has an excellent vertical (36") and enormous hands (10 1/4") with long arms (33").

On Brown's Pro Day:

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Brown ran improved times of 4.504 and 4.53 Thursday afternoon. He caught everything thrown to him. He showed burst on overthrown balls and adjusted well on the fly. No one carrying a clipboard or stopwatch seemed worried. "He looked great," said one NFC scout. "Good hands. Explosive. He's going to be fine."

NFL Scouting Report:

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After a monster senior season, Brown appears to be a sleeper in this year's draft. He is a bit undersized, but fights off the press effectively and has a knack for getting open in both man and zone coverage. He has adequate speed and a bit of a wiggle to make people miss in the open field. His greatest asset is his competiveness, as he plays angry and willingly sacrifices his body to make catches and is a great run blocker. Overall, Brown's physical attributes are less than ideal, but he is tough football player that could sneak into Day 2.

Very nice job. I like how you're thinking like our GM. We'll have to start calling you SaccaPioli.

Pro Day updates on my boys:

Zane Taylor:

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When four offensive line coaches, all known for their abilities in that capacity, all converge on a Pro Day for a guy named Zane Taylor in Utah, who as of two days ago was considered a seventh rounder … then something’s up. Especially when that guy blows his Combine bench press number out of the water.

All the attention though was considered a good thing as the general thought of the day was Taylor continues to improve his stock.

He had 41 reps on the bench press (225 pounds), an improvement from the 33 he made at the combine. Anything above 30 is considered very good.

Bill Callahan, the former Oakland Raiders coach who is an assistant now with the New York Jets, was among the coaches getting an eyeful of Taylor

Aaron Wilson even writes that he worked out for those guys for a good long time.

Per our source, Taylor excelled in an intense positional drill session that went on for an hour.

This is interesting to me. The fact that he was flagged for such a late pick, coupled with his performances, and the attention of guys like Tom Cable, Dante Scarnecchia, and Bill Callahan would all be there tells us something there that they feel like they can work with. Looks like this could be a guy some teams hoped to scoop up late … but looks like there might be a little race to get him in the draft.

Jerrell Powe:

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Mississippi DT Jerrell Powe decided to conduct almost a complete workout at the school’s pro day held Tuesday, and it just might have paid off for him.

With representatives from 18 teams present, Powe (6-foot-2, 329 pounds), who was at the NFL Scouting Combine last month, ran 5.29 and 5.36 seconds in the 40-yard dash, had a 24 ½-inch vertical jump, a 7-foot, 10-inch broad jump and ran a 4.96 short shuttle. He stood on his 3-cone drill time and bench-press lifts from the Combine.

Powe’s workout was pretty solid, probably a bit better than his performance at the Combine, which could go a long way for his hopes of being drafted.

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Mississippi DT Jerrell Powe decided to conduct almost a complete workout at the school’s pro day held Tuesday, and it just might have paid off for him.

With representatives from 18 teams present, Powe (6-foot-2, 329 pounds), who was at the NFL Scouting Combine last month, ran 5.29 and 5.36 seconds in the 40-yard dash, had a 24 ½-inch vertical jump, a 7-foot, 10-inch broad jump and ran a 4.96 short shuttle. He stood on his 3-cone drill time and bench-press lifts from the Combine.

Powe’s workout was pretty solid, probably a bit better than his performance at the Combine, which could go a long way for his hopes of being drafted.

That last part of your post is pretty interesting. There is a thread somewhere here that has Powe listed as a 7th round draft pick. This sort of confirms that.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7564421)

McElroy is trash and just because Portis is black and transferred from Florida doesn't mean he'd have been Cam Newton. He sucks and is a thug. Awful analysis.

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 7573536)

McElroy is trash and just because Portis is black and transferred from Florida doesn't mean he'd have been Cam Newton. He sucks and is a thug. Awful analysis.

Like Newton, Portis was a highly sought after prep quarterback that originally started at Florida, struggled with some cheating issues at school (Maryland), then transferred to a small college where he put up ridiculous numbers. His college situation damn near mirrors Cam other than getting back into D1 (which is why I said if he had another year of eligibility he might have done what Newton did in having success at the D1 level). I don't see how that's an "awful analysis."

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7573826)

How many California (PA) games from last season have you watched? I've watched six. Portis is not an NFL QB.