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Rausch 09-07-2011 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 7883871)
In K.C., obviously.

In 2008, here were the teams with 5 wins or fewer, with their win totals that year, and their highest win total since in parentheses:

Bengals: 4(10)
Browns: 4(5)
Jaguars: 5(8)
Raiders: 5(8)
Chiefs: 2(10)
Lions: 0(6)
Seahawks: 4(7)
Rams: 2(7)

That gives the Chiefs the best turnaround in the group, and that includes the year where Pioli was a late hire and didn't have his own staff in place. He doesn't really need what he did with the Patriots to be included in that.
Ok, so after a 10-6 record and a first round playoff ass-pounding what grade would you give the HC/GM?

An A?

B+?...

NJChiefsFan 09-07-2011 02:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7883879)
Ok, so after a 10-6 record and a first round playoff ass-pounding what grade would you give the HC/GM?

An A?

B+?...
Im not sure its fair to penalize him for a team that probably over achieved and got in the ring with a team it wasn't fully ready for. Yet another reason to wait until this season ends to start deciding on either extremes for this question.

LOCOChief 09-07-2011 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7883862)
I don't know if Pioli deserves a good letter grade. He inherited every good player on the roster from Herm and Carl. He did get Berry but he shouldn't get a lot of credit for that because Berry fell right into his lap.
Yeah see many of you guys and KnowMo THINK ALIKE.

LMAO grading a rokkie's that haven't played a snap.

do any of you know what grade the league gave him? hmmmmmm

Bugeater 09-07-2011 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 7883848)
The guy won executive of the year, helped his team go from 2 wins to 10 wins in just 2 seasons, and just had what looks to be a second consecutive excellent draft, and that's only good enough for a "B"?


This ****ing place

LMAO
I didn't realize he set up the 2010 schedule.

Deberg_1990 09-07-2011 06:47 AM
What grade did Chiefsplanet give Carl Peterson in Sept. 1991?

King_Chief_Fan 09-07-2011 06:53 AM
As if any of you are qualified to evaluate job performance of an NFL GM.

I give you all an F on your attempt. It was humorous though.

milkman 09-07-2011 06:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 7883871)
In K.C., obviously.

In 2008, here were the teams with 5 wins or fewer, with their win totals that year, and their highest win total since in parentheses:

Bengals: 4(10)
Browns: 4(5)
Jaguars: 5(8)
Raiders: 5(8)
Chiefs: 2(10)
Lions: 0(6)
Seahawks: 4(7)
Rams: 2(7)

That gives the Chiefs the best turnaround in the group, and that includes the year where Pioli was a late hire and didn't have his own staff in place. He doesn't really need what he did with the Patriots to be included in that.

Hey, it's just grades, and they're meaningless. I just get a kick out of this place bitching over an 8 game improvement in 2 years largely because a handful of people poisoned the waters about a QB who's been better than the guy they wanted the team to draft.
I think this idea of grading is pretty assinine at this point, but using these numbers, clearly Mike Brown is a damn good GM.

King_Chief_Fan 09-07-2011 07:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7883861)
The Weis breakup is a sign of weakness in Haley.
is that you or your avatar speaking?

Chief Faithful 09-07-2011 07:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7883862)
I don't know if Pioli deserves a good letter grade. He inherited every good player on the roster from Herm and Carl. He did get Berry but he shouldn't get a lot of credit for that because Berry fell right into his lap.
Common KnowMo, you are loosing your burst.

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 07:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 7883984)
As if any of you are qualified to evaluate job performance of an NFL GM.

I give you all an F on your attempt. It was humorous though.
This...


:clap:

the Talking Can 09-07-2011 07:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 7883848)
The guy won executive of the year, helped his team go from 2 wins to 10 wins in just 2 seasons, and just had what looks to be a second consecutive excellent draft, and that's only good enough for a "B"?


This ****ing place

LMAO
nobody cares what Cassel's vas deferens thinks...

Hydrae 09-07-2011 07:27 AM
I agree, I am not thrilled with Cassell. But getting a starting LB and QB for a second round pick is certainly better than a "C" grade.

Just sayin'

Chiefnj2 09-07-2011 07:29 AM
2009: F. Bad draft. Firing OC 2 weeks before the season. Haley over his head. DC that didn't fit.

2010: A. Good draft. Hired 2 very good coordinators. Team overachieves and makes playoffs.

2011: Inc.

Quesadilla Joe 09-07-2011 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 7883994)
Common KnowMo, you are loosing your burst.
What part of that isn't true though? He did inherit Charles, Flowers, Albert, Carr, Dorsey, Derrick Johnson, Brian Waters, Bowe, and Tamba Hali. Who else that is any good has Pioli brought in? Berry was a nobrainer pick at #5 much like Von Miller was for Elway so they shouldn't get credit for top 5 picks.

The best thing Pioli was able to do was bring in Weis and Crennel last year and now Weis is gone.

whoman69 09-07-2011 07:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7883862)
I don't know if Pioli deserves a good letter grade. He inherited every good player on the roster from Herm and Carl. He did get Berry but he shouldn't get a lot of credit for that because Berry fell right into his lap.
Yes because Herm brought out all the great play in those players.

We had other options beyond Berry.


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