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Shaid 09-19-2011 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7925119)
No I was not...so?

Again - why bother pointing to an expansion team that took 2 seasons to go 16-0 as your proof that a 16-0 team is manageable when there's an actual 16-0 team that's actually happened in the last 5 years.

Though once again - you've done an excellent job of not making any sense.

I'm with DJ on this one but honestly, who cares? Suck is suck. Let's move on.

Sucky 09-19-2011 04:28 PM

The COlts are the team I am most worried about. Seriously, they are NOTHING without Manning.

As far as the Seahawks go, lets hope that dumbass Pete Carroll drafts Barkley because he coached him at USC lol

Fish 09-19-2011 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 7925153)
So our only hope is to be the worst team in the league?

Not our only hope by any means. But our best hope.

I still don't think I could ever bring myself to wish for a Chiefs loss though.

lcarus 09-19-2011 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7925277)
Not our only hope by any means. But our best hope.

I still don't think I could ever bring myself to wish for a Chiefs loss though.

I'm deflated after those first 2 games. Hoping for a win just seems stupid to me now. What's the point? We clearly aren't gonna win many games. So if I'm not rooting for them to win because I know how bad they are, I might as well hope we lose so we have a better chance at winning next year and the years in the future. The more we lose, the better prospect QB we get.

Fish 09-19-2011 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 7925285)
I'm deflated after those first 2 games. Hoping for a win just seems stupid to me now. What's the point? We clearly aren't gonna win many games. So if I'm not rooting for them to win because I know how bad they are, I might as well hope we lose so we have a better chance at winning next year and the years in the future. The more we lose, the better prospect QB we get.

Ehhh.. They'll be fine either way. It's not like Luck guarantees a Superbowl or anything. I'd do ****ing cartwheels if we did happen to get him. But I just can't bring myself to root for failure.

The good thing though, is that the Chiefs look like they're really good at failing all by themselves. As long as Cassel continues his progression with the team, we'll be fine. LMAO...

whoman69 09-19-2011 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 7925240)
Yes. We need to draft a potentially great QB because a great QB can hide a lot of deficiencies on a team. Christ look at the Colts. With Peyton they're Super Bowl contenders. Without him they're contending to be the worst team in the league. That's how much difference a QB can potentially make. So we need to lose to get the best bet out there.

Is that what the Packers, Steelers, Saints and Patriots did? How did that work out for the Browns, 49ers, Texans and Raiders? In fact of all the # pick QB recently, name one besides Peyton that took their team to the SB. Before Manning you have to go back to Troy Aikman for a QB that took the team that drafted them #1 overall to the Super Bowl. So hoping that your team sucks enough to be worst team in the league is an idea that sucks.

Rams Fan 09-19-2011 04:47 PM

You just called the Rams a cellar team when they are 0-1 and haven't played Game #2 yet?

Phobia 09-19-2011 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7925310)
You just called the Rams a cellar team when they are 0-1 and haven't played Game #2 yet?

Yes.

Rams Fan 09-19-2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 7925317)
Yes.

Okay.

Easy 6 09-19-2011 04:52 PM

As long as Bradford hasnt been a total mirage thus far, the rams days in the cellar are over.

What i wouldnt give to have him in KC.

lcarus 09-19-2011 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 7925309)
Is that what the Packers, Steelers, Saints and Patriots did? How did that work out for the Browns, 49ers, Texans and Raiders? In fact of all the # pick QB recently, name one besides Peyton that took their team to the SB. Before Manning you have to go back to Troy Aikman for a QB that took the team that drafted them #1 overall to the Super Bowl. So hoping that your team sucks enough to be worst team in the league is an idea that sucks.

I know what you're saying. You're right. Drafting a QB #1 overall doesn't always work out, but if we're gonna be bad (which....we're a terrible terrible team now especially with our injuries) why not be the worst? There are other QBs to get, I understand that. I just want the best bet. Luck is that guy. I'll take my chances with him.

lcarus 09-19-2011 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 7925309)
Is that what the Packers, Steelers, Saints and Patriots did? How did that work out for the Browns, 49ers, Texans and Raiders? In fact of all the # pick QB recently, name one besides Peyton that took their team to the SB. Before Manning you have to go back to Troy Aikman for a QB that took the team that drafted them #1 overall to the Super Bowl. So hoping that your team sucks enough to be worst team in the league is an idea that sucks.

Also you should check this out. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=75 Lots of failures there, but some good/great ones too. Nothing is guaranteed in sports, but you gotta take the best bet every time.

Quesadilla Joe 09-19-2011 05:00 PM

Elway has ties to Stanford I bet he could get Luck to force a trade to Denver if he wants to.

lcarus 09-19-2011 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7925341)
Elway has ties to Stanford I bet he could get Luck to force a trade to Denver if he wants to.

Well just remember when Eli Manning forced that trade, the Chargers ended up with Philip Rivers. So maybe it wouldn't be the end of the world.

zonachief 09-19-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 7925309)
Is that what the Packers, Steelers, Saints and Patriots did? How did that work out for the Browns, 49ers, Texans and Raiders? In fact of all the # pick QB recently, name one besides Peyton that took their team to the SB. Before Manning you have to go back to Troy Aikman for a QB that took the team that drafted them #1 overall to the Super Bowl. So hoping that your team sucks enough to be worst team in the league is an idea that sucks.

I understand your point, but the logic behind the "very few number one overall qbs win superbowls", statement is flawed. Its a pure numbers game. Since the superbowl era began there have been roughly 20 number one overall qbs taken #1. And all the other qbs taken with the number two overall pick and after have far greater odds to win the big one.

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