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Dexter Manley 12-08-2011 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8159126)
Yeah, we won't be at 10. RGIII or bust for me...

There is a lot to like about that kid.

However, the track record of the "running QB" staying healthy in the NFL is not good.

RGIII needs to learn to slide, go out of bounds, and not run so much. Getting him to do that may not be as easy as it sounds - just ask Vick...

BigCatDaddy 12-08-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobbie (Post 8180974)
There is a lot to like about that kid.

However, the track record of the "running QB" staying healthy in the NFL is not good.

RGIII needs to learn to slide, go out of bounds, and not run so much. Getting him to do that may not be as easy as it sounds - just ask Vick...

He isn't really a "Running QB'. He averaged 330 yards per game passing and completed 72% of his passes. The rushing yards are just gravy.

Nightfyre 12-08-2011 02:01 PM

Oh, I get it now. LMAO

Dexter Manley 12-08-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 8180992)
He isn't really a "Running QB'. He averaged 330 yards per game passing and completed 72% of his passes. The rushing yards are just gravy.

He's done a better job this year avoiding hits, and that's demonstrates progress, but he is still running and taking more hits than you would want an NFL QB to take.

But, heck, he is the Baylor QB who beat OU, and for that, I having nothing but the highest for him...

BigCatDaddy 12-08-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobbie (Post 8181064)
He's done a better job this year avoiding hits, and that's demonstrates progress, but he is still running and taking more hits than you would want an NFL QB to take.

But, heck, he is the Baylor QB who beat OU, and for that, I having nothing but the highest for him...

That is easily correctable. What is not is a one read and run QB which he obviously is not.

Nightfyre 12-08-2011 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobbie (Post 8181064)
He's done a better job this year avoiding hits, and that's demonstrates progress, but he is still running and taking more hits than you would want an NFL QB to take.

But, heck, he is the Baylor QB who beat OU, and for that, I having nothing but the highest for him...

I suspect that RGIII's current running tendancies are more a product of how he is being coached to play in the system Baylor built around him. Here, he would probably be taught that running is only okay with wide open seams and that he has to slide at the end of a run or get oob. JMO.

jd1020 12-09-2011 03:10 PM

There is another guy, Charlie Campbell, on walterfootball.com who's been keeping up on his mocks. Here's what he has as of 12/9...

11. Kansas City Chiefs: Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
If the Chiefs can land a left tackle like Reiff, that would allow them to move Brandon Albert to another area of need, like guard or right tackle. That would be a big improvement for the Kansas City offensive line. Reiff has the combination of size and mobility that Chiefs' offensive coordinator and offensive-line guru Bill Muir loves. Drafting the tackle would upgrade the Kansas City line at two spots.

Reiff has been a solid left tackle for Iowa. At 6-foot-6, 300 pounds, he has the frame to add some more power. Reiff is a technician who has been well-coached at Iowa. The junior looks like he has the ability to switch to right tackle, and possibly guard, if needed, but would have to put on some weight for either of those positions. Reiff's natural position is left tackle, and he should turn into a quality left tackle in the NFL.

Reiff had a very good game against Pittsburgh defensive end Brandon Lindsey. The rest of Reiff's schedule was very manageable. He had no issues with Michigan's defenders and played well against Nebraska.

45. Kansas City Chiefs: Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M
Chiefs quarterback Matt Cassel will turn 30 just after the 2012 NFL Draft. The team could groom a new quarterback for a year or two behind him. Tyler Palko and Ricky Stanzi have been so impressive that Kansas City picked up Kyle Orton and promptly put him in the lineup after Cassel was lost for the season.

The 6-foot-4, 222-pound Tannehill is a good athlete who can make big plays with his feet and a strong arm. This season, he has completed 61 percent of his passes for 3,711 yards with 28 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. The senior also has rushed for 296 yards with four touchdowns. Tannehill has been inconsistent and is still developing at the position. He played well against Baylor and Missouri, but struggled against Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas.

Others are higher on him, but Tannehill has only played one full season at quarterback. The signal caller has struggled in big games this season and will need time to develop at the pro level. After the bowl game, he will have 20 collegiate starts at quarterback.

As a wide out in 2008, Tannehill caught 55 passes for 844 yards and five touchdowns. He switched to quarterback in 2010 and played well in the last half of the season as the Aggies' starter. Tannehill completed 65 percent of his passes for 1,638 yards with 13 touchdowns and six interceptions.

77. Kansas City Chiefs: Josh Chapman, DT, Alabama
The Chiefs address their nose tackle position with Chapman. Their current starter, Kelly Gregg, is 34 and won't play forever. Jerrell Powe hasn't proven to be able to start over the veteran yet, and Chapman could provide some competition and depth with Powe.

The 6-foot-1, 310-pound Chapman is Alabama's nose tackle in their 3-4 defense, and he has had a quality 2011 season. Chapman does a good job of plugging his gap and occupying blockers to keep them off the Crimson Tide's inside linebackers. Thus far in 2011, he has recorded 22 tackles with 3.5 tackles for a loss, one sack and two passes batted down.




Either one of these latest mocks I'd be pleased with.

Dexter Manley 12-09-2011 06:14 PM

jd, if you want to "keep up with the mocks," there are plenty of "journalists" guessing right now to keep you occupied.

The first step is to wait and see who is actually in the Draft and who isn't... and that's two months away...

O.city 12-10-2011 03:31 PM

jd, I actually like that draft. I'd rather try and get something besides a RT in the first but i guess I'd be ok with that.


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