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htismaqe 01-11-2012 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 8285924)
The other thing is that most people dont smoke but a partial joint at a time.

Says who?

alnorth 01-11-2012 03:19 PM

I had this EXACT same line of thought this morning. Saw a story with a startling headline, clicked it, read it, saw the glaring obvious problem.

They are basically comparing several packs to one joint. WTF, really?

Aside from the obvious reason why its not comparable, its also not reasonable to assume that several-joint MJ smokers wont exist if MJ is legal. They don't exist now because its not legal and its not cheap.

This study is worthless. I understand the difficulty of finding incredibly-heavy MJ-users, but if they cant find those, then they should only compare what they've got to very light cigarette smokers who only light up a few times a month.

ct 01-11-2012 04:18 PM

Is there an exponential factor for those exercising both PYs & JYs concurrently?

Not that I need to know or anything...

sedated 01-11-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 8286019)
They are basically comparing several packs to one joint. WTF, really?

The difficulty is finding a decent comparison. A pot user doesn’t light up and smoke an entire joint every hour or so like a smoker does. They may smoke once or twice a day (and that’s a pretty serious user, assuming they have a job).

And who are these idiots who think that a joint is the universal form of smoking pot? Of all the regular smokers I know, I’d guess less than 1% use joints as their main form of consumption, and those are generally the people who smoke the least overall, since a joint is a social thing.

alnorth 01-11-2012 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8286291)
They may smoke once or twice a day (and that’s a pretty serious user, assuming they have a job).

In that case, they can easily find a good comparison. They need to cull out all the heavy tobacco smokers, since people smoking several packs a day are in another world by themselves.

Take 1,000 typical pot users, compare them with 1,000 very light few times a month cigarette smokers, and see what you got. I do think cigarettes are more harmful, but the difference wont be much under that condition.

trndobrd 01-11-2012 05:38 PM

Waiting to see the study comparing the health impacts of pot brownies to Oreo consumption.

DaFace 01-11-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by trndobrd (Post 8286485)
Waiting to see the study comparing the health impacts of pot brownies to Oreo consumption.

People who eat a pot brownie a week are more healthy than people who eat 40 Oreos per day. You're welcome.

SAUTO 01-11-2012 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8286291)
The difficulty is finding a decent comparison. A pot user doesn’t light up and smoke an entire joint every hour or so like a smoker does. They may smoke once or twice a day (and that’s a pretty serious user, assuming they have a job).

And who are these idiots who think that a joint is the universal form of smoking pot? Of all the regular smokers I know, I’d guess less than 1% use joints as their main form of consumption, and those are generally the people who smoke the least overall, since a joint is a social thing.

Blunts FTW.
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SAUTO 01-11-2012 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8285983)
Says who?

I wondered that too
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DRU 01-11-2012 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chasedude (Post 8285971)
One word... Vaporizer!

Yup

SAUTO 01-11-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU (Post 8286625)
Yup

Got one. Dont like it much though. Not the same to me
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Baby Lee 01-11-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8286496)
People who eat a pot brownie a week are more healthy than people who eat 40 Oreos per day. You're welcome.

Apt and succinct. I approve.

DRU 01-11-2012 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8286632)
Got one. Dont like it much though. Not the same to me
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Took me about a week to get used to it. The reason it's not the same is because of exactly that...it's not the same.

The process, the steps involved, the smell, the taste (which is actually a lot nicer with the vape), the cached feeling in your lungs, etc. That all goes away with the vaporizer so all you get is the end result.

That end result does still work just fine, and you feel a lot of better in general, too, because you're not sucking in all that nasty, resinated shit that gets left behind. Not to mention you save on your shit because it's a lot more efficient. No flame. No burning up your stuff. No carcinogens. You gotta get past the habit of everything else involved and be able to realize it.

Point is I think you should try it again.

SAUTO 01-11-2012 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU (Post 8286665)
Took me about a week to get used to it. The reason it's not the same is because of exactly that...it's not the same.

The process, the steps involved, the smell, the taste (which is actually a lot nicer with the vape), the cached feeling in your lungs, etc. That all goes away with the vaporizer so all you get is the end result.

That end result does still work just fine, and you feel a lot of better in general, too, because you're not sucking in all that nasty, resinated shit that gets left behind. Not to mention you save on your shit because it's a lot more efficient. No flame. No burning up your stuff. No carcinogens. You gotta get past the habit of everything else involved and be able to realize it.

Point is I think you should try it again.

Lol. I use it quite a bit still.

Just isn't the same
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AustinChief 01-11-2012 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 8285505)
What's your point? Every sane person knows that inhaling any kind of smoke is a bad thing. Marijuana users just look for a reason to justify using, so they say it's better than smoking. Well, maybe it is, but inhaling smoke is not good, period.

That's actually not true at all. The dose makes the poison. Anyone who has studied toxicology knows this.

Check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threshold_limit_value

Of course, inhaling smoke DIRECTLY usually does cause one to pass that threshold. I don't know the exact figures for marijuana .. I do know that it is far worse on carcinogens than cigarettes are.


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