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HMc 01-13-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 8292505)
What I have heard (and it's just rumor, so it's essentially baseless/worthless...) is that they actually gave him every opportunity to take the job during the latter half of the season. And that they were ultimately disappointed with his development in 2011.

But who knows. I'm surely not in the locker room.

This is an unpopular explanation since it suggests that the hope that people have attached to Stanzi is misplaced (and that the Chiefs are therefore no closer to having a QB than they've been in 20 years), but it is by far the most likely explanation. Far simpler and more plausible than the numerous conspiracy theories.

He didn't get on the field because he looked like dogshit, basically.

O.city 01-13-2012 06:47 PM

Sorry Frankie.

Meant this offseason makes us contenders for a long time. Pay no attention to the consistently part.

keg in kc 01-13-2012 06:47 PM

On the original topic, I really don't like the idea of drafting any RB in the first round. The lifespan for the position is too short. I want to look for a position that can field a cornerstone player for a decade, rather than one where you're a good bit less likely to see the player perform at all past his rookie contract.

My dream is and continues to be a first round quarterback that becomes the face of the franchise until the early to mid 2020s.

O.city 01-13-2012 06:48 PM

That may be true about Stanzi. However, I just think with him being a 5th rounder and having to offseason, it was determined that he wouldn't play a down this year unless there was no other way around it.

007 01-13-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 8292468)
If this is the case - and it may be - then why wasn't he playing during the season? I can't think of a greater potential opportunity handed to any quarterback. All he had to do was beat out Tyler Palko.

Or were you talking about next preseason rather than last preseason?

I wish people would stop and consider that maybe they had no intention of playing him during 2011 no matter what the cost. 2012 is when we will find out what the kid has.

HMc 01-13-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8292531)
That may be true about Stanzi. However, I just think with him being a 5th rounder and having to offseason, it was determined that he wouldn't play a down this year unless there was no other way around it.

I think you mean "I'd like to think" rather than "I just think"

You're creating somewhat irrational fantasies to generate hope. It's fair enough.

Frankie 01-13-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8292527)
Sorry Frankie.

Meant this offseason makes us contenders for a long time. Pay no attention to the consistently part.

Thanks. Now I am freed up to read the rest.

HMc 01-13-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8292549)
I wish people would stop and consider that maybe they had no intention of playing him during 2011 no matter what the cost. 2012 is when we will find out what the kid has.

I think everyone has "considered" that. There are a number of explanations that plausibly answer the question "where was Stanzi". That is indeed one of them.

Another is that management thought he looked inferior to Tyler Palko and Kyle Orton.

007 01-13-2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HMc (Post 8292559)
I think everyone has "considered" that. There are a number of explanations that plausibly answer the question "where was Stanzi". That is indeed one of them.

Another is that management thought he looked inferior to Tyler Palko and Kyle Orton.

Of course that is another option. I just see too many people assuming he sucks because they didn't play him.

O.city 01-13-2012 06:56 PM

Well apparently HMc isn't a Stanzi fan.

I also feel Orton would be alright but I doubt he sticks around.

keg in kc 01-13-2012 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8292549)
I wish people would stop and consider that maybe they had no intention of playing him during 2011 no matter what the cost. 2012 is when we will find out what the kid has.

I'm just passing on what I've heard. Sorry if it doesn't fit how you want things to be. It might not even be reality, as I mentioned.
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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8292564)
Of course that is another option. I just see too many people assuming he sucks because they didn't play him.

We must be reading the board at different times or something. Most of the time when I'm reading the Planet seems like it's hq for the Ricky Stanzi fanclub. Which is fine, people are certainly entitled to their brand of faith.

O.city 01-13-2012 07:00 PM

I do remember seeeing someone say that the Chiefs were not impressed with Stanzi's progress

007 01-13-2012 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 8292571)
I'm just passing on what I've heard. Sorry if it doesn't fit how you want things to be. It might not even be reality, as I mentioned.We must be reading the board at different times or something. Most of the time when I'm reading the Planet seems like it's hq for the Ricky Stanzi fanclub. Which is fine, people are certainly entitled to their brand of faith.

I see more people saying "he obviously sucks" and hardly anyone truly wanting to see what he can do. I guess we must be on at two different times.

Also, It isn't "how I want it to be" as you say. People need to stop making assumption is all. We don't know if he truly sucks or if he is truly good.

HMc 01-13-2012 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8292566)
Well apparently HMc isn't a Stanzi fan.

I also feel Orton would be alright but I doubt he sticks around.

wut?

I've never seen him play, nor met him. Why would I be fan or otherwise?

I'm attempting to analyse the situation using the little evidence we have available (facts).

I would love nothing more than to see this guy come out and make the spot his own in 2012.

But the facts are that the Chiefs elected to play Tyler Palko and a barely initiated Kyle Orton instead of this guy. Everything else is speculation.

O.city 01-13-2012 07:06 PM

Then by that reasoning, Hudson didn't unseat Lilja or Wiegmann because he wasn't any better or Gaither didn't start becasue Richardson was better?


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