That was the Pioli move hiring Haley 3 years ago.

I liked that about this article. Lots of (to me) new, useful information.

Bill Parcells gave Todd Haley his first coaching job with the jets and from there followed him to Dallas.

He was tree, through and through.

Sounds like the best option is Chud. I would love it if we could bring that guy in but I'm not holding my breath. I don't think that any of the others sound too appealing unfortunately. I just really do not want a former offensive line coach to call plays, they always seem so narrow

Doesn't matter who hired him. It was a bad call.

As far as future OC's go, I would love to see Clements hired. We have no chance with Chud, apart from promising him a future head coaching job. As far as past hires go, I do think Haley would have been a good hire if we hadn't had Pioli as a GM or if they hadn't had issues. Whether that would have ensured us for long term success and better draft selections, I'm not sure. The past two drafts have been pretty solid in Asamoah, Berry, Kendrick, Arenas, Bailey, Hudson, Baldwin, Houston, Moeaki.

Clements would be a home run hire for OC but I have a gut feeling its going to be a tree hire like Brian Ferentz which all things considered wouldn't be terrible

What would make it a homerun?

He's been around for 19 years and he's been a QB coach for all but 1 year. He was OC in Buffalo for 1 year before getting fired.

I like what he's done in Green Bay working with that offense especially the QBs not that Rodgers needs much help but Flynn has also looked solid in his limited snaps.. With QB currently being our biggest weakness I'd like someone whose had some success with them and Clements seems to be that guy.. Hell he even got a good season out of Tommy Maddox for Christs sake

He was in Buffalo two years and had the amazing Kelly Holcomb to work with and wasn't terrible there considering

So the 25th and 28th ranked offenses isn't terrible?

He had Drew Bledsoe year 1 and Kelly Holcomb for half a season and JP Losman for the other half, a QB the Bills drafted in the first round.

I'm not saying I wouldn't be opposed to hiring him. But what exactly makes Clements more than the Dave Duncan of the Packers?

Haley was 110% from the "tree".

Hired Pioli ... the #1 candidate that people wanted
Hired Haley ... considered the 'hot' guy
Hired Weis and Crennel ... both top coordinators

being part of 'the tree' is irrelevant ... these guys were considered the hot guys or the big time names. Big money was dished out.

Haley fired Gailey and ran Weis off
Haley wanted a puppet so Muir was hired(his guy, not pioli)
Haley was a big bucket of fail and was fired

seems to me that the Chiefs have been TRYING to get the good guys and it just hasn't work yet. Hiring Haley was a big mistake ... right now we could be running with a young,upcoming head coach with Weis/Crennel as coordinators. A top notch staff and a good combination of young and old.

too bad Haley was such a little bitch

*crossing fingers and hoping Crennel gets a real OC*

completely irrelevant outside of your hatred for it

Haley was considered the hot guy coming off a super bowl win.

Ahem...I never said he wasn't.

In fact, when people have said Haley was a "no name" when he was hired, I've said the same thing you just said - Haley was one of the most sought-after assistant coaches that offseason. We hired the big name, most definitely.

Perhaps you should take the time to READ what I was responding to and not jump to your pre-determined conclusion.