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the Talking Can 03-02-2012 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 8410848)
Michael Bush will be available?

Tyvon Branch to get the franchise tag
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 1, 2012, 4:58 PM EST
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New Raiders G.M. Reggie McKenzie is currently in slash-and-burn mode. But there are some Raiders that he wants to keep.

Jason La Canfora of NFL Network reports that safety Tyvon Branch has been informed he will receive the franchise tag. DeSean Jackson was the first player this year to officially get the tag on Thursday.

We’d argue that Branch is the best player in the Raiders secondary. The franchise number for safeties is relatively reasonable (under $7 million), so the move makes sense. This eliminates any consideration of Michael Bush for the tag.

It raises some question about whether the Raiders will retain safety Michael Huff, who is due to make $8 million in 2012. $4 million is guaranteed for Huff, so we’d guess that the team will keep Huff. (We also would have guessed the team would keep Kamerion Wimbley. And that’s not looking too likely.)

Branch is a ferocious hitter than can cover a lot of ground. Raiders fans don’t seem overly impressed with McKenzie’s moves so far, but we suspect they will like this one. They should.
man Bush would be a perfect #2 in KC, and free up a draft pick for us...

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-02-2012 08:52 AM
NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora reports the Titans are "likely" to place the franchise tag on free agent CB Cortland Finnegan after all.
The Titans never engaged in serious long-term talks with Finnegan, and all previous indications pointed toward the organization letting their top corner walk. The Rams and Cowboys were expected to be among Finnegan's most fervent suitors. Under the tag, Finnegan would earn roughly $10.5 million in 2012. Free agent CB Brandon Carr's stock is on the rise as perhaps the top corner available.




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Carr's value just went sky high

RUSH 03-02-2012 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8411318)
Part of me believes that was one of Bowe's demands. Get me real QB or I sign somewhere else.
I think you're giving him too much credit.

2nd contract and pretty much all contracts are all about the $$$. This is likely going to be his biggest pay day for the rest of his life and he wants to cash in. I don't think the qb situation matters much, if at all.

I think the qb situation will start to matter towards the end of his 2nd contract so he can cash in again. And if a qb is holding him back then he's going to get frustrated.

DaKCMan AP 03-02-2012 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8411314)
This has been covered, but with Pioli's good history of signing in house players, I'm of the belief Carr wants top CB money, and it would be silly and bad business to pay top dollar to two CBs. The Chiefs have a lot of money, but that doesn't mean let's foolishly put huge chunks in one position, ala Philly.
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Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 8411319)
Couldn't agree with you more. As long as the Chiefs do spend- and it seems that they want to with all the press conferences they've been requesting- there's no reason to pay a #2 CB top money. In this pass-first league, though it seems counterintuitive, that money is better spent on a top tier pass rusher for the weak side. They better spend, though: now is our time to do so.
IMO, Carr is a #1 CB and outplayed Flowers last season.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-02-2012 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8411851)
IMO, Carr is a #1 CB and outplayed Flowers last season.
He outplayed him on the number 2 wr lets see what he does on the number 1 100% of the time. Carr last year was on the number 1 about 15%

Mr_Tomahawk 03-02-2012 09:01 AM
[QUOTE=ChiefsandO'sfan;8411847

Carr's value just went sky high[/QUOTE]

We need to tag/tender or figure out a way how to include Carr in a package deal for the Rams #2 pick...

Is that possible?

Hoover 03-02-2012 09:05 AM
Scott needs to sign Dwayne Bowe today. Pay the man, so we can tagg Carr's ass.

bricks 03-02-2012 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8411316)
I don't think he signs until we make a move at quarterback.
Can they afford to keep him? That's what I'm thinking about.

They sure do have the cap space to take on Mannings contract, and if Manning goes to KC, I think Wayne follows him.

I do think they are going to take a run at Solai as well. That's three big contracts right there in Manning, Wayne and Solai. Plus, they need money for the draft as well. I'm not sure if they can afford to keep Bowe? Look at all the cap space the rest of those other players are going to take up.

DaKCMan AP 03-02-2012 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8411858)
He outplayed him on the number 2 wr lets see what he does on the number 1 100% of the time. Carr last year was on the number 1 about 15%
Prove it.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-02-2012 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8411888)
Prove it.
Go watch a game lol see it for your own eyes.

DaKCMan AP 03-02-2012 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8411897)
Go watch a game lol see it for your own eyes.
Translation: I made up a BS statistic and was talking out of my ass.

DBoweShow 03-02-2012 09:20 AM
Flowers and Carr were 1A and 1B corners, so I don't see the need to argue about #1 or #2 corner.

DaKCMan AP 03-02-2012 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DBoweShow (Post 8411906)
Flowers and Carr were 1A and 1B corners, so I don't see the need to argue about #1 or #2 corner.
I agree. But when people claim "we don't need to pay #1 money for a #2 CB" it's absolute garbage. Carr is a #1 CB.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-02-2012 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8411902)
Translation: I made up a BS statistic and was talking out of my ass.
You need to go watch a game bud....

Mr_Tomahawk 03-02-2012 09:31 AM
So is there a scenario out there where we can include Carr in a package deal to the Rams for their #2?

And what would that scenario be?

Would we tag him, and what additional picks would we have to give up?


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