Is that the value of trading down six spots? A third rounder?

And someone made the point of how we are going to be running a zone blocking scheme, and how Konz isn't the best fit for that....

I can't say that I like the Barron pick.

Do you really need to dedicate those kinds of resources to your safeties? I know the position is more important than it used to be, but it's not like they're allowed to go hunting much any more. I like the idea of moving Berry over to the FS, but I just don't think it's worth a 1st rounder to do it. And ultimately, if you're going to draft Konz, why not draft DeCastro instead and slide Hudson to the C? I think your line is far better off for it.

Ultimately thought, I'd prefer Brockers at that spot and Ta'amu w/ the 2nd rounder. Suddenly our D-Line would be legitimately dangerous. That's the way to deal with the passing game these days, IMO. Not through multiple high-value safeties. That frees up the 3rd rounder for a young RB or perhaps that's where you get your SS. I like the Charles pick and am ultimately lukewarm on the others. Blah blah, Iowa, blah.

LSU Safety Brandon Taylor anyone?

George Iloka anyone?

That's who I was thinking but couldn't remember his name.

DeCastro/Brockers
Ta'amu
Taylor

is a significantly better 1-3 than

Barron
Konz
Chapman

IMO. You end up with a better NT as well as a better interior lineman (should you choose to go that route) all for the cost of a step down at SS. That's a trade I'll make every single time.

How do you know unless you have spent time in the locker room and around the players?

I think Barron going at 17 is a little high. He's coming off of double hernia surgery recently and that should be considered when drafting a first round pick. The first rounder should make an immediate impact. I haven't heard a recent prognosis on his health since the surgery, but I'm a little weary without an update.

That is what I was wondering?

Will Chapman really still be there in the third, let alone the fourth as mentioned?

You should get a nap then.

:)

I think some of his other injury issues may be a concern but not the hernia. That's a pretty routine surgery these days. Unless there is some congenital defect that makes him prone to them, it doesn't seem like much of a concern to me.

Understood, but he was never lightning fast in the first place, a smart team would be thorough and know the status before pulling the trigger for a first rounder. I didn't say he should be eliminated from the conversation, but surely, a recent surgery should be taken into consideration for a team's first pick.

Man as I recall Berry got beat a lot by TE when he was in coverage. I don't think putting Berry in coverage is where he will strive.

You bet he was. As a rookie.

Peyton Manning was a shitty QB as a rookie.

These things happen.

Brockers? Decastro?

You have got to be ****ing joking.

We have Bailey, Dorsey and Jackson...where would you squeeze Brockers in there?

A guard? I don't care if he shoots lightening bolts out of his arse, NO GUARD AT 11.

BTW every guy on nfln today said Barron solidified himself as a top 15 pick at his proday. Said he is the best safety since Eric Berry.

Brockers has the potential to be elite. He plays with a super high motor. If he practices the same way, Crennel could get him to reach his Seymour potential. I also doubt we will retain Dorsey and Brockers is a prototypical 5-tech.

I should have prefaced that post by saying I really like Brockers.

It's just that Jackson is growing into a difference making LDE for our 30 front and Bailey may well be a beast in the makings...he was very impressive towards the end of last year. Dorsey may well leave after this year, but who knows what happens between now and then.

Tanehill
Pass rusher
Richardson
Barron

I'd take any of these guys before Decastro or Brockers, but I guess I can see why Zpioli would think differently.

One things for sure, if I'm Peyton Manning and see our defense adding Barron...I'm kicking myself for hanging up on KC.