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the Talking Can 04-18-2012 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8550801)
His ass is fat enough for our scheme.

I think he's got some pounds and inches on Kelly Gregg.

I'm really starting to sour on Ta'amu. I felt at the start of the draft season that he was more of a 4-3 NT than a 3-4 NT, but slowly started changing my mind.

I've reverted. I think Ta'amu busts as a 3-4 NT -- our system is so different from the wide-open defenses employed in the Pac 12.

Chapman is our best bet. I'd understand if the Chiefs burned a 2nd on him.

agreed...and there are zero concerns about this guy's commitment, which is usually an issue for fatties

O.city 04-18-2012 09:18 AM

All the Bama lb's said Chapman was the reason for their d being what it is.


Like some have said, if we throw a second rounder at him, i'm fine with it.

the Talking Can 04-18-2012 09:31 AM

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Chapman sustained his injury in a game against Florida on Oct. 1. A few days later, an MRI revealed he had torn the anterior cruciate ligament and meniscus in his left knee. "Dr. (Lyle) Cain said he's never seen a guy that can have a torn ACL and still stay that stable," Chapman told the Birmingham News. Chapman decided to delay surgery and finish out the season. He missed one game, but played in the eight others that followed the injury. Chapman played a total of 12 games this past season, sitting out Alabama's 45-21 win over Georgia Southern on Nov. 19. Georgia Southern rolled up 302 rushing yards against the Crimson Tide.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2012&genpos=DT

Direckshun 04-18-2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8550920)

DRAFT HIM.

Bewbies 04-18-2012 03:18 PM

He's got to be #1 on our draft board at NT. I'd rather have him than Terrance Cody...

whoman69 04-18-2012 06:25 PM

Most drafts show him a round 3 or 4 guy. If we don't get a DT in the 2nd, I would certainly like to see us shore up this position with Chapman.

O.city 04-18-2012 07:14 PM

I think/ hope we are very interested in this guy.


Pioli loves defensive guys from the SEC and this guy is a good one.

BryanBusby 04-18-2012 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8551654)
He's got to be #1 on our draft board at NT. I'd rather have him than Terrance Cody...

Yep. He fits the role very well and comes from a program that's been churning out quality defensive talent at an impressive rate.

BigCatDaddy 04-19-2012 06:37 AM

Brockers and Chapman would be nice additions to sure up our weakest link on D.

YayMike 04-19-2012 08:03 AM

How about this scenario that i haven't seen suggested:

Trade our 3rd rounder to move up to get Tannehill from Jax.
Draft Chapman with our 2nd rounder to ensure that we get him. (Of course trading down in the 2nd round is also an option, still allowing us to get him, say we get an extra 4th for trading down)
draft the best center/guard with our 4th rounder.
IF we trade down in the second, draft the best remaining safety with the other 4th rounder.

We would have essentially filled all of our needs while taking a chance on getting a franchise QB that we desparately need.

Thoughts?

Coogs 04-19-2012 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by YayMike (Post 8553101)
How about this scenario that i haven't seen suggested:

Trade our 3rd rounder to move up to get Tannehill from Jax.
Draft Chapman with our 2nd rounder to ensure that we get him. (Of course trading down in the 2nd round is also an option, still allowing us to get him, say we get an extra 4th for trading down)
draft the best center/guard with our 4th rounder.
IF we trade down in the second, draft the best remaining safety with the other 4th rounder.

We would have essentially filled all of our needs while taking a chance on getting a franchise QB that we desparately need.

Thoughts?

I'd be good with that. I don't think that we necessarily need all 8 of our draft picks this year... especially after what we did in the free agency period.

Frosty 04-19-2012 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by YayMike (Post 8553101)
How about this scenario that i haven't seen suggested:

Trade our 3rd rounder to move up to get Tannehill from Jax.
Draft Chapman with our 2nd rounder to ensure that we get him. (Of course trading down in the 2nd round is also an option, still allowing us to get him, say we get an extra 4th for trading down)
draft the best center/guard with our 4th rounder.
IF we trade down in the second, draft the best remaining safety with the other 4th rounder.

We would have essentially filled all of our needs while taking a chance on getting a franchise QB that we desparately need.

Thoughts?

Tannehill, Chapman, Molk and a RB in 5-7 would be fine with me.

buddha 04-19-2012 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8550859)
But since you've said there have been many "lighter" NTs, go ahead and start listing. And I'll list the larger NTs. We'll see what comes out ahead.

You are twelve after all. ROFL

We just need one. If that player is a Alan Page/Tim Krumrie type of player, fine. If he's a big blob that can play as well, fine.

ChiefMojo 04-19-2012 09:47 AM

Chapman is considered by some a 3/4 round guy due to his injury. His talents are probably more along the line of late 1st into the 2nd round.

I like him a LOOTTTT more than Poe.

suds79 04-19-2012 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha (Post 8553249)
You are twelve after all. ROFL

We just need one. If that player is a Alan Page/Tim Krumrie type of player, fine. If he's a big blob that can play as well, fine.

Thanks for backing up your post by listing them off. Alan Page & Tim Krumrie. Fantastic. Welcome to the past. When you're ready to look at today's NFL, let me know.

Nobody said anything about not needing to have talent. But when you're ready to look at trends...

Ravens - Terrence Cody 349
Steelers - Casey Hampton 325
Patriots - Vince Wilfork 325 (if you believe that)
Jets - Sione Pouha 325
Packers - B.J. Raji 337
Dolphins - Paul Soliai 355

Just to get started. Can do this all day while still waiting for your list of there have been many "lighter" NTs

Where are they?

The main point is that there are size requirements to play the position effectively. I'll contend that Jay Ratliff is the Tom Brady of the position. He's the exception rather than the rule. Don't you think if a lighter DT could play the nose the Chiefs would have tried out Glenn Dorsey there already? With everything they've invested in him? But no. He's not big enough.


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