We were technically last place last year, but it's not nearly the same magnitude of "last place" as the first time. We were as close as making one of two blocked field goals in that horrible game against the Raiders to winning the division for a second consecutive year.

Our team may not be a perennial contender yet, but you can see the progress. Our team was pretty awful when he came aboard, and talent and depth at every position has improved since he arrived (even at QB, arguably). He demonstrated this offseason that he's able to land top-flight free agents (Winston).

Obviously, he's made some mistakes (Cassel's massive contract being the one that stands out the most), but who would we hire when he's gone who would do better? Last year was almost undoubtedly a playoff year before the injuries (and almost was despite them). I expect the Chiefs to do better this year, but suppose they finish 10-6 and miss the playoffs? That's certainly possible, but it's not worth firing Pioli over. If we lay down a massive turd of a season (say, 4-12 or something), then there's more reason to fire him.

I dont know. I wish I had an answer. IMO Hunt's only truly care about $$$$$$$$$$
Putting a product on the field that competes is way down the list of Hunt priorities in IMHO.

IMO, this is Cassel's make or break year. Actually last year was, but he wiggled out of that somehow.


Pioli has put a pretty good roster together, but IMO some of his mess ups have been bigger than his successes. If he messes this up with Bowe and we miss the playoffs, that oculd be the dagger.

People seem to forget this too often.

I was just wondering.



Alot of people say "Blame the Hunts", which is entirely possible that it is their fault. However I don't know what owners can do in this situation to change.

How does this make ANY sense. Wins= season ticket holders, and more money. So I guess you meant if Clark wants to win, then Pioli is his man, and I have to agree. Even though I know that's not what you meant.
To answer the OP, I would have to say yes. If we do not make the POs, Pioli should at least be on the hot seat.
Man, if wasn't for one position, there really wouldn't be a reason for anyone to say shit. Pioli has done an awesome job at just about everything else, and i know he sees Cassel's short comings because he's done everything he would seemingly need to do put Cassel in position to succeed, and I believe he's gonna have a better season than 2010, no matter how bad we hate him.
Winston, and the running game are going to have more impact than people here realize.

/end of thread. Well stated.

Again. More wins = more money. SBs = big time bucks. Winning, and making are one in the same.
How someone could believe that clark doesn't want to win regardless of his motives is beyond me.

I don't think there has been anything to convict Pioli on that would call for a firing anytime soon. He's taken on a huge task imo and done fair with it. I would have parted ways with Cassel as a starter and let it be an open comp now during this whole off season/ota/tc, but he thinks Cassel can get them going again. Got to wait see on that.

Much as you guys don't want to admit it, Cassel has enough talent to at least go to the playoffs with this talented team, but a lot is riding on the regained performance of Jamaal Charles & Eric Berry, Moeaki too, to some degree. Point is, he did it once already with the Chiefs and I think we can agree this year's team should be a bit more talented than the 2010 team.

If Cassel can in fact keep that INT # down while striking once or twice a game, the Chiefs will have a winning season, I would expect. Sorry to say. I hate watching that baseball wind up of his, but if he gets the job done, it will be hard to criticize Pioli for sticking with him another season imo. Maybe Daboll can get these wideouts to get off the ball more quickly and that would help Cassel in the passing game.

I don't expect the Chiefs to do well, myself and I expect Cassel to choke out this season. RC will pull him by season's end. Late in the season after they lose WC/Playoff contention. Maybe game 12, something like that.

He wants to win. But does he want to spend the cash that it takes to put a winner on the field? 40 years of broken down hasbeen's

wont happen but should happen.

Look at Pioli's draft this year. All developmental guys.

He isn't going anywhere.

Well, there was a significant increase in season ticket after they simply made the playoffs a couple of years ago, and that's not incredibly difficult in today's NFL. I'm sure he wants them to be successful enough to sell out Arrowhead, avoid blackouts, etc... but, that doesn't mean he's passionate about winning a Super Bowl.

No matter what kinda season the Chiefs have... If that stadium is full every week Pioli & Cassell will be there until they retire

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