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philfree 08-03-2012 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8788098)
Hey, example of this fanbase being full of ****ing mouthbreathers.

You're the Jerry Sundusky of this forum so you probably shouldn't be calling people mouth breathers.

I don't blame Bowe for holding out of camp for now. IMO he needs to show up a day before the 3rd preseason game. He gets three days to acclimate a week of practice and one preseason game to take a handful of reps.

He leaves almost $10mil on the table by holding out for the season then he's a fool.

BossChief 08-03-2012 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8788037)
It's not a question of is he worth more, moron. Bowe would probably happily accept a contract that paid him 9.5 per with a good signing bonus.

He blows out a knee in training camp he gets ZERO MONEY WHATSOEVER this year.

And you call him a moron for not signing a contract that puts him into that kind of risk.

1) You think Bowe would accept FAR LESS than what comparable players have gotten recently? Vincent Jackson got 11 million per year with a 5.555 million dollar signing bonus. 9.5 million per hear and a gold signing bonus wouldn't get it done.

2) The 9.5 million is FULLY GUARANTEED. Once it's signed, he gets every sime no matter what would cause him to miss the year (as long as it's football related)

If he shows up to camp and blows out his ACL, he still gets the 9.5...but he puts his ability to sign a big deal after the year in jeopardy.

I think Bowe is gonna regret not signing an extension and that he is putting his whole careers earning potential in jeopardy by playing the year on the tag. There isn't a whole lot that can increase his value going forward.

petegz28 08-03-2012 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8788070)
:facepalm:

He doesn't have to hold out into the regular season.

Risking his health in TC right now though is a pretty questionable idea.

Risking being behind and thus possibly looking not so good ain't gonna help him.

BossChief 08-03-2012 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 8788125)
You're the Jerry Sundusky of this forum so you probably shouldn't be calling people mouth breathers.

:shake:

King_Chief_Fan 08-03-2012 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8788037)
It's not a question of is he worth more, moron. Bowe would probably happily accept a contract that paid him 9.5 per with a good signing bonus.

He blows out a knee in training camp he gets ZERO MONEY WHATSOEVER this year.

And you call him a moron for not signing a contract that puts him into that kind of risk.

he gets zero either way dip shit. He is guranteed the 9.5 if he has an injury related to football.
what he is risking is waiting until the season starts and not knowing the play book and having less chance for the big pay day.

you are some kind of stupid

Hammock Parties 08-03-2012 09:47 AM

He's guaranteed the 9.5 if he gets hurt in TC?

O.city 08-03-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8788280)
He's guaranteed the 9.5 if he gets hurt in TC?

That doesn't sound right, but I digress.

Quesadilla Joe 08-03-2012 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8788280)
He's guaranteed the 9.5 if he gets hurt in TC?

Yes. As soon as he signs that tender his entire salary for the year is guaranteed.

Edit: Assuming he doesn't miss any regular season games because of the holdout, not the injury.

BossChief 08-03-2012 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 8788241)
he gets zero either way dip shit. He is guranteed the 9.5 if he has an injury related to football.
what he is risking is waiting until the season starts and not knowing the play book and having less chance for the big pay day.

you are some kind of stupid

Even if he doesn't know that playbook, he will be a difference maker from the first snap of the regular season.

If the coaching staff isn't prepared to get a player of Bowes ability level ready to play "on the fly", we don't deserve to be a playoff team.

With our opening stretch of games, we NEED Bowe out there if we are to have a chance at getting a good start to the season.

BossChief 08-03-2012 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8788280)
He's guaranteed the 9.5 if he gets hurt in TC?

Yup. The franchise tag is fully guaranteed.
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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8788286)
Yes. As soon as he signs that tender his entire salary for the year is guaranteed.

Edit: Assuming he doesn't miss any regular season games because of the holdout, not the injury.

Nevermind...you edited it.

philfree 08-03-2012 10:48 AM

I was wrong in my psot about the cool million that being said i knew there were rule changes in the new CBA to protect players from not recieving any money if they were injured.

I think the cool million is for playrs under contract but not franchised. Is that right?

whoman69 08-03-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 8788088)
With the new CBA they pretty much are. Since they are not allowed to negotiate a new contract once the cutoff date has come they really have no choice. They can only lose money for the season not get more.

I'm kind of curious when they can? Do they have to wait until February?


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