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TLO 08-23-2012 10:59 AM

Um. If some of these guys are "under the gun", please feel free to ship them off to KC. Sam Bradford, Joe Flacco, or Matt Schaub please.

Scorp 08-23-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8844250)
Stupid, stupid, stupid.

A 1st round QB would be cheaper than the one we have now. $ is not the issue.

Some of you regurgitate the same dumb arguments without even thinking about it. The rookie wage scale took $ out of the equation last year.

I am not talking $$$$. I am talking about giving up two firsts and whatever else to move up in the draft to pick at number 1 or 2. I just don't believe the Clark's will ever do that.

mr. tegu 08-23-2012 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 8844345)
Um. If some of these guys are "under the gun", please feel free to ship them off to KC. Sam Bradford, Joe Flacco, or Matt Schaub please.

The only one I would want is Bradford. Schaub is always hurt and Flacco is no better than Cassel.

Reerun_KC 08-23-2012 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8844282)
We do? The cruel irony here is that alot of fans are expecting us to have a great year. If that happens we wont have a shot at a top tier guy and most likely Cassel had a good year.


so do you want the team to have a bad year or a good one Chiefs fans?

I want the franchise to get this fanbase a franchise qb under center.

You dont have to lose to get a franchise QB, Where does it state that in the NFL Franchise handbook?

Reerun_KC 08-23-2012 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 8844345)
Um. If some of these guys are "under the gun", please feel free to ship them off to KC. Sam Bradford, Joe Flacco, or Matt Schaub please.

Flacco can stay in Bmore.

bevischief 08-23-2012 11:19 AM

Just anyone who can play better than Cassel and can play for a long time.

htismaqe 08-23-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 8844382)
The only one I would want is Bradford. Schaub is always hurt and Flacco is no better than Cassel.

Bradford has a lot to prove this year. Unless he turns it on, he's in danger of acquiring the mediocre tag too...

Agree with you on the other two, though.

McWickedson 08-23-2012 11:34 AM

Bradford is no where near decent. Rams will be looking for another quarterback in two years.

Omaha 08-23-2012 11:39 AM

Misleading thread title!!!!!!! I feel ripped off. There were only 10.

milkman 08-23-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8844444)
Bradford has a lot to prove this year. Unless he turns it on, he's in danger of acquiring the mediocre tag too...

Agree with you on the other two, though.

Flacco show some signs of making a step up last year.

This year is going to be the year for him to really step it up and show everyone that he's a guy that has the necessary mental tools to lead his taem to the SB, rather than be a guy that rides the talent around him to a couple of playoff wins.

I don't think there's enough talent surrounding Bradford for him to prove himself this year.

His rookie season, though, I think we saw a guy that has the ability to elevate the talent around him.

That Rams team is going to lose a lot of games, but I think, if he stays healhty, it will be in spite of Bradford's efforts.

royr17 08-23-2012 12:04 PM

I disagree, the receivers that Bradford has had to throw to since entering the NFL are horrible, put him on a team like Kansas City with the talent that we have on offense and he will blossom like a flower.

Point blank with any QB if you dont have a good surrounding cast around them you cant expect things to be pretty.

Dr. Johnny Fever 08-23-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Omaha (Post 8844458)
Misleading thread title!!!!!!! I feel ripped off. There were only 10.

Well hell you're right. It said 11 images I guess but they have Sanchez on there twice. Damn east coast bias.

htismaqe 08-23-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8844468)
Flacco show some signs of making a step up last year.

This year is going to be the year for him to really step it up and show everyone that he's a guy that has the necessary mental tools to lead his taem to the SB, rather than be a guy that rides the talent around him to a couple of playoff wins.

I agree. You can probably say the same thing about Matt Ryan.

Solid but not spectacular. And considering both teams have taken considerable steps to surround them with talent, they both need to make "the leap" this year or risk being labelled as game managers.

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8844468)
I don't think there's enough talent surrounding Bradford for him to prove himself this year.

His rookie season, though, I think we saw a guy that has the ability to elevate the talent around him.

That Rams team is going to lose a lot of games, but I think, if he stays healhty, it will be in spite of Bradford's efforts.

I somewhat agree with this. His WRs and offensive line have been off-and-on adequate but mostly just atrocious. His biggest problem is that he's having trouble staying healthy. In all, St Louis is a REALLY hard place to evaluate a QB right now given the state of the team and one has to wonder if Jeff Fisher's style might have a detrimental impact on Bradford as well.

htismaqe 08-23-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 8844534)
Well hell you're right. It said 11 images I guess but they have Sanchez on there twice. Damn east coast bias.

They put Sanchez on there twice because he's THAT bad.

BoneKrusher 08-23-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8844250)

A 1st round QB would be cheaper than the one we have now. $ is not the issue.

Exactly.


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