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Covitz:Gonzalez looking forward to his homecoming (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=263211)

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8879111)

It would be, but had we kept Gonzales I seriously doubt we sign Boss.

Exactly... Just to think, we could have kept Gonzalez and drafted Jimmy Graham instead of Moeaki.

I just wish he would've been more loyal, patient and willing to be part of the solution not the problem. It says a lot about the type of person he is off the field which is a major "me" douche. I love what he did for us but you can't expect every fan favorite to be a Kurt Warner type of person in this business. I get that Tony is a dick, it just sucks because you don't wanna believe it.

I wonder if we even draft a TE in that spot if Pioli thinks we could have gotten a sleeper and had Gonzo train him. Just can't play what if and assume that the things that happened after an event would play out the same if you change the original event. Like in baseball when a runner gets thrown out and then a player hits a HR. Can't say it woulda been a 2 run homer cause the pitcher probably pitches different, atleast thinks differently.

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8879111)

It would be, but had we kept Gonzales I seriously doubt we sign Boss.

That was my first thought too. But thinking about those three never hurt anyone. :D

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 8879117)

he is one and who really cares about him....he has come and gone

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“The most special part about it is the fans. There’s no doubt about it. That’s what I miss, the fans, the atmosphere. The fan support they gave me and my family, I count that as my family because they’re always there with me when I’m on the field.”

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“Everybody is asking me, ‘What’s it like in there? Is the stadium loud?’ ” Gonzalez said of his Atlanta teammates, who last played at Arrowhead in 2004. “And, I’m like, ‘Oh yeah, it’s going to be crazy, it’s opening day, they’ve got a pretty good football team … wait until you hear the national anthem, and wait until you hear, after every first down, the whole crowd shouting, ‘That’s a Chiefs’ first down!’"

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“That gets tough,” Gonzalez said of his lack of postseason success. “Kansas City deserves better. We were never able to get over that hump. … It’s the only sad part about it that I can think of in my time in Kansas City.”

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He’s owned businesses in Kansas City . . . and he’s active in the community with his foundation, including Shadow Buddies in Kansas City, where smiling dolls are given to ailing children and the elderly.

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“To look back, I can’t believe how naive and unprepared I was,” Gonzalez said. “Football is a great life teacher. Fortunately, I was able to learn from it, and it’s taken me to where we’re at today. I grew up in Kansas City. I became a man in Kansas City. … Unbelievable memories … the teams I was able to play on, the players I was around … being able to play for Lamar Hunt, one of the innovators of the game. It was a cool history to have as a player.”

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“I still love the game, I’m really enjoying it and am able to be effective, so I’m going to enjoy this year,” Gonzalez said. “It kind of makes it more special, too, knowing this is the last time I’ll be at Arrowhead. The last time. That’s a luxury.”

Serious question: why do so many seem to hate him and call him a dick? I know nothing about the man, but he seems to say all the right things and seems to genuinely have enjoyed playing in KC and still supports the city and the fans.

I get that he shot his way out of town but I see his point of view. He was 32, entering his prime, and by the end of the '08 season things looked bleak. From '04 to '08 KC went 7-9, 10-6, 9-7, 4-12, and 2-14. Two seasons of winning 6 total games when you're the best TE in football has to grind you down. Then a sweeping new regime comes in, and it looks like the team will be in rebuilding mode... why NOT see if you can get traded?

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 8879276)

Honestly, I think it all stems from a few incidents at training camp and elsewhere where the guy acted like a primadonna to people in a public, fan-oriented setting. He obviously doesn't like to sign autographs, for one.

Outside of that, I'm not sure anybody really begrudges him for wanting to leave and play for a winner. I know I don't.

I bumped into Tony at Whole Foods and My son asked for his autograph. Tony told him to get lost, which is fine as I told my 7 year old(at the time) he shouldn't have bugged him.

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8879305)

I bumped into Tony at Whole Foods and My son asked for his autograph. Tony told him to get lost, which is fine as I told my 7 year old(at the time) he shouldn't have bugged him.

There have been reports of Tony acting the same way in places/scenarios that were DESIGNED for fans to get autographs.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8879290)

Yeah I experienced that first hand at the Hall Of Fame induction.I'm not an autograph hound by any means I just believe that if a player is at a fan-oriented setting they should have no problem with it.If they're at dinner,a club or whatever I say leave them the hell alone and let them enjoy their time off.

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8878426)

15 catches, all against Javier Arenas, completing the circle.

HAHA

You know this is going to happen, too.

Mainly the Gonzalez stuff is from private settings, where he has been less than stellar to fans.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8879377)

Mainly the Gonzalez stuff is from private settings, where he has been less than stellar to fans.

No, he's done it in public settings too. At functions that were explicitly for the purpose of meeting with the fans and signing autographs.

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 8879276)

He asked to be traded every other season, probably a total of five times, usually when his stats weren't as good as he wanted. Even the year after signing a contract extension, he was bitching about wanting to go elsewhere. He first asked for a trade when we fired Gunther. He didn't want to play for DV cos he didn't think he'd get thrown the ball enough. It took Al Saunders explaining Kellen Winslow and the Coryell offense to him to unbunch his panties. Then he liked DV but pitched a hissy fit whenever he wasn't the focus on offense, usually with a 'they should just trade me if they're not gonna throw it to me more...' thrown in there.

Tony was a great player. He'll go into the hall of fame and nobody can ever take that away from him. I still remember him as much for his perpetual complaining as I do for his excellent play.

In general I don't think his west coast douche mentality meshed well with KC fans. Not like 'blue collar guy' does.

Ah welcome home Mr Playoffs?

Nah, why do we care about him?