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suds79 09-20-2012 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 8929842)
Our 2 best LB's are going to be on the downside of their careers by the time our offense is ever worth a crap...whenever we get a real QB.

I can understand the concern here because I think there is pressure to get a real QB while this core, who is suppose to be good (take that for what you will), is still young.

However when I think you take a step back and realize that all these other guys just don't matter as much in today's game, it's not a big deal.

Once we finally get that QB, we then become eligible to be good again. And hopefully the new GM will have brought in some players to compliment the QB.

Essentially who cares about these guys? All you should care about is us getting a franchise QB. The rest will take care of itself.

the Talking Can 09-20-2012 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8929837)
WRs - being honest, McCluster MIGHT be the best WR on the team. Best route runner and better hands than Bowe.

LMAO

Black Bob 09-20-2012 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2
WRs - being honest, McCluster MIGHT be the best WR on the team. Best route runner and better hands than Bowe.
I think he has proven he can be successful in a Welker type role if we go that route. He does have better hands and run better routes than Bowe. I could see him putting up better numbers than Bowe soon.... maybe?

Chiefshrink 09-20-2012 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8929847)
We need leadership in a bad way.

Here is the main problem. Romeo is not a babysitter rah rah type and you can't look at this Chiefs team and pick out that main offensive or defensive leader on either side of the ball like a Drew Brees or Ray Lewis type of player that will lead or motivate. I'm not trying to compare the talent here, just leadership in general.

It looks like everyone is waiting on everyone else to take the lead and Romeo sure isn't going to do it. He will teach and give you the game plan but he isn't going to motivate and lead that's for sure.

Who will step up ???

BoneKrusher 09-20-2012 07:48 AM

setting this Martyball style team up in today's pass happy league would be like setting your kid up with an 8 track instead of an ipod.

Black Bob 09-20-2012 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 8929869)
Here is the main problem. Romeo is not a babysitter rah rah type and you can't look at this Chiefs team and pick out that main offensive or defensive leader on either side of the ball like a Drew Brees or Ray Lewis type of player that will lead or motivate. I'm not trying to compare the talent here, just leadership in general.

It looks like everyone is waiting on everyone else to take the lead and Romeo sure isn't going to do it. He will teach and give you the game plan but he isn't going to motivate and lead that's for sure.

Who will step up ???

I think Berry can do it. They just need to put him in a normal SS roles rather than use him as a hybrid LBer. They are asking him to do too much right now. On offense, we have no one this year imo.

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8929877)
setting this Martyball style team up in today's pass happy league would be like setting your kid up with an 8 track instead of an ipod.

Yep and it's really sad. Everything the owners did geared the league to be a passing game only. It was all about money as it brought more interest and made the game more exciting. The DBs have to back off and the quarterbacks can't be touched.

kcxiv 09-20-2012 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8929866)
I think he has proven he can be successful in a Welker type role if we go that route. He does have better hands and run better routes than Bowe. I could see him putting up better numbers than Bowe soon.... maybe?

No way he puts up numbers like Bowe. I don't think his body can handle the pounding. Plus There Kano way this team has 2 1000 yard recievers not with mark throwing the ball.

Molitoth 09-20-2012 07:54 AM

This article is spot on.

Black Bob 09-20-2012 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 8929883)
No way he puts up numbers like Bowe. I don't think his body can handle the pounding. Plus There Kano way this team has 2 1000 yard recievers not with mark throwing the ball.

I think it's alot easier to put up big numbers in the Welker sort of way than the Bowe sort of way. It's two completely different sort of styles. I could see it happening. Especially if we keep losing. They might start phasing Bowe out and preparing for the future. Kind of like the way New England is phasing Welker out.

Deberg_1990 09-20-2012 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8929866)
I think he has proven he can be successful in a Welker type role if we go that route. He does have better hands and run better routes than Bowe. I could see him putting up better numbers than Bowe soon.... maybe?

Well, obviously McCluster is smaller, quicker and faster than Bowe…so hes quicker in and out of cuts. Bowe has always had seperation problems. Don’t know why they don’t just run more of a West Coast short passing offense with Bowe and Baldwin? If I remember right, Bowe got most of his biggest gains in 2010 by catching short slants and using his strength to breakaway from defenders for long gains. Hes done that a lot throughout his career.

Dragonocho 09-20-2012 08:01 AM

Pioli seems to forget that the Chiefs of 2012 will never play the Chiefs of 2011. He's not looking external to counter what other teams are doing or to follow emerging trends like the forward pass - nicely played Sam.
This is the same crap the Royals do next door - improve the roster annually, sell tickets on the hope that this will produce a winner but it never does because they do so at a slower rate than competitors are improving theirs.

Black Bob 09-20-2012 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8929897)
Well, obviously McCluster is smaller, quicker and faster than Bowe…so hes quicker in and out of cuts. Bowe has always had seperation problems. Don’t know why they don’t just run more of a West Coast short passing offense with Bowe and Baldwin? If I remember right, Bowe got most of his biggest gains in 2010 by catching short slants and using his strength to breakaway from defenders for long gains. Hes done that a lot throughout his career.

I agree. Weis had it going on with the short passing game.

Chiefnj2 09-20-2012 08:04 AM

Pioli is probably thinking that in the last 3 years the Jets (2x), San Fran, and to a lesser degree Baltimore have all had run first, strong D teams that made it far in the playoffs (and in some cases should have won the conference championship games). Yes, it isn't as popular and there is a much smaller window for error, but it can still be effective at times.

KC_Lee 09-20-2012 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8929903)
Pioli is probably thinking that in the last 3 years the Jets (2x), San Fran, and to a lesser degree Baltimore have all had run first, strong D teams that made it far in the playoffs (and in some cases should have won the conference championship games). Yes, it isn't as popular and there is a much smaller window for error, but it can still be effective at times.

I agree with one caveat; this only works if you have a strong coaching staff that can prepare a team for Sunday and then make in game adjustments as needed.

Right now this HC and staff seem to be lacking either of those qualifications.

notorious 09-20-2012 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8929847)
I am fine with that. Aside from Berry, we need better stars imo. I see alot of role players. We need leadership in a bad way. Hopefully, we can get a QB and a MLB that are real leaders. That has got to be where we start.

That's what I don't understand. Pioli drafted team captains, and the right 53. Where the hell are the leaders?


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