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Ace Gunner 10-08-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8991591)
He clearly touched it.

100% on Matty.

I think you guys misunderstood my point. I'm saying Matt Cassel knocked Lilja over the ball before Lilja could even do the exchange.

Ultra Peanut 10-08-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 8991655)
Pioli planted the seed and now his buddies are starting to run with the whole "it's mental, not physical", thing. That way Pioli can still say "Well, Matt had all the tools that's why I brought him here but you can never tell when it comes to the mental part."

Well played Scott

If he's that smart, why didn't he do that two years ago?

Not saying it's implausible (it's definitely a thing powerful people do when they **** up), just hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngh so sick of Cassel.

COchief 10-08-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 8991616)
So a week ago in that Yahoo article, Pioli shakes the etch-a-sketch and transforms himself into a Cassel-doubter

I must have somehow missed this, can you provide a link? I searched but couldn't the article.

BigRock 10-08-2012 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8991674)
No Ed Reed came out and said he saw that audible coming from a mile away. Reed said its the exact same stuff that Tom Brady does to a T. But in this case it's Matt Cassel not Tom Brady, and Ed Reed was not only able to shoot the right gap but he jumped it. Ed Reed said hes seen that audible a million times playing the Patriots. The Ravens were 110% ready for that sneak. It's the Patriots Way and their schemes being the exact same pieces of shit that ****ed us. Not Ryan Lilja.

Reed said he recognized the play, but he didn't cause the fumble. He basically said it would have worked, the gap was open to sneak it, and as he came up he saw the ball on the ground.

BigRock 10-08-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by COchief (Post 8991870)
I must have somehow missed this, can you provide a link? I searched but couldn't the article.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--we...rting-job.html

"Sources familiar with Pioli's thinking" say why of course Matt's just a backup. Scotty knew that all along.

mcaj22 10-08-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 8991901)
Reed said he recognized the play, but he didn't cause the fumble. He basically said it would have worked, the gap was open to sneak it, and as he came up he saw the ball on the ground.

yeah

"I knew it was a quarterback sneak," Reed said. "Me and Ray (Lewis) were yelling at each other, and I saw the ball come out. (The ball) hit his lineman, the center's leg, and I saw it come out."


They have seen it so many times that they were about to shoot that gap and punch him right in the mouth regardless of fumble, no fumble, etc. It's all about the scheme and play calling, and it's so bad that these guys saw it coming from a mile away.

tk13 10-08-2012 11:16 AM

I don't know... most of the time a defense knows a QB sneak is coming. Or is ready for it in that situation. That's probably not a big deal. I'd say the whole omaha thing is probably bigger than that. They need to mix up the audibles and actually fake it every once in a while.
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FringeNC 10-08-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 8991915)
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--we...rting-job.html

"Sources familiar with Pioli's thinking" say why of course Matt's just a backup. Scotty knew that all along.

I saw that earlier. Preparing to throw Matt under the bus -- but why not pull Cassel earlier? It's obvious to me that Crennel and Daboll, like Haley, want no part of Matt Cassel. The game-plan yesterday, in my mind, was a big FU from Crennel and Daboll to Pioli. If Pioli knows Cassel is only a backup, why is he still forcing him on those guys? Pioli is one strange dude.

Hammock Parties 10-08-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8991932)
The game-plan yesterday, in my mind, was a big FU from Crennel and Daboll to Pioli.

Good.

Divided, they will fall.

BigRock 10-08-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8991932)
If Pioli knows Cassel is only a backup, why is he still forcing him on those guys?

Why not? They're the ones getting blamed for it. Between the Yahoo article and Peter King, there's no mention at all of Pioli's role in this. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! The one who signed Cassel to the big contract and refused to bring in any competition."

The tone is "WTF's with Romeo and Daboll, why don't they bench Cassel already?" Like it's their fault.

Gameplans like Sunday might have been an FU to the old Scott Pioli. But this is the new Pioli, the one who knew all along that Cassel was a career backup. Exposing Cassel doesn't bother him. It just proves him right. He knew it all along. Gosh, what an eye for talent on that portly sumbitch.

Pioli's distancing himself from Cassel. His media pals are framing it where the coaches are to blame for Cassel still starting. It's everybody's fault but Pioli's. And according to Kent Babb, this is exactly the sort of stuff Scott rounds up and pleads his case to Clark with.

The zombie horde is approaching and Pioli's shooting everyone in the leg so that he can get away clean. He's got no loyalty to anyone but himself.

If this was The Sopranos, they'd find him out back by an Arrowhead dumpster with a dead rat in his mouth. Then the camera would zoom in and we'd see it was the same rat that Haley's wife had in her salad.

bishop_74 10-08-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8991932)
I saw that earlier. Preparing to throw Matt under the bus -- but why not pull Cassel earlier? It's obvious to me that Crennel and Daboll, like Haley, want no part of Matt Cassel. The game-plan yesterday, in my mind, was a big FU from Crennel and Daboll to Pioli. If Pioli knows Cassel is only a backup, why is he still forcing him on those guys? Pioli is one strange dude.

OR... just follow me for a sec on this one... OR, perhaps it wasn't a big FU to Pioli, and they just wanted to win the game so they eliminated Cassel from the equation. I would suggest the 3 amigos are far tighter than anyone suspects. Crennel and Dabol knew what was in their chilli before they started eating it.

FringeNC 10-08-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 8992081)
Why not? They're the ones getting blamed for it. Between the Yahoo article and Peter King, there's no mention at all of Pioli's role in this. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! The one who signed Cassel to the big contract and refused to bring in any competition."

The tone is "WTF's with Romeo and Daboll, why don't they bench Cassel already?" Like it's their fault.

Gameplans like Sunday might have been an FU to the old Scott Pioli. But this is the new Pioli, the one who knew all along that Cassel was a career backup. Exposing Cassel doesn't bother him. It just proves him right. He knew it all along. Gosh, what an eye for talent on that portly sumbitch.

Pioli's distancing himself from Cassel. His media pals are framing it where the coaches are to blame for Cassel still starting. It's everybody's fault but Pioli's. And according to Kent Babb, this is exactly the sort of stuff Scott rounds up and pleads his case to Clark with.

The zombie horde is approaching and Pioli's shooting everyone in the leg so that he can get away clean. He's got no loyalty to anyone but himself.

If this was The Sopranos, they'd find him out back by an Arrowhead dumpster with a dead rat in his mouth. Then the camera would zoom in and we'd see it was the same rat that Haley's wife had in her salad.

CHunt would have to be one clueless MFer to not hold Pioli accountable for Cassel.

htismaqe 10-08-2012 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bishop_74 (Post 8992119)
OR... just follow me for a sec on this one... OR, perhaps it wasn't a big FU to Pioli, and they just wanted to win the game so they eliminated Cassel from the equation. I would suggest the 3 amigos are far tighter than anyone suspects. Crennel and Dabol knew what was in their chilli before they started eating it.

Yep.

BigRock 10-08-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8992128)
CHunt would have to be one clueless MFer to not hold Pioli accountable for Cassel.

I don't think for a second that Clark would buy it, which just makes it all the more delightful to see Pioli revealing his true colors as he desperately flails around to save himself.

BigChiefFan 10-08-2012 12:33 PM

So he pays a back-up, starting QB money and he gets a free pass? I don't think so.


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