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mcaj22 10-09-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cyborgtable (Post 8995865)
Tannenbaum has build a joke of a roster.
No receivers, a pitiful interior line.
Depth problems everywhere.
Slowest linebacking core in the NFL.
No pass-rushers to speak of.
And a bunch of projects in the early rounds

kind of sounds like how Pioli built our team

project receivers
depth problems everywhere
acquired 1 good LBer/pass rushr
no d-lineman that can pass rush all projects/busts/stiffs/take too much time for development
projects in early rounds everwhere
injury prone secondary with no depth
letting homegrown talent walk in FA for cheaper and worse FA alternatives

Chiefs and Jets football

BigRock 10-09-2012 01:30 PM

This article has nothing to do with Parcells.

This is the same guy who wrote the column last week where "a source close to Pioli" acted like Scott knew all along that Cassel wasn't any good.

Now he's saying Pioli's problem is that he doesn't do enough interviews. He stays out of the limelight too much. And it's not even Pioli's fault, because it was bad advice he got.

WE NEED MORE PIOLI
MORE PIOLI WILL FIX EVERYTHING

COchief 10-09-2012 01:31 PM

This "secrecy with the media" philosophy is so simple and stupid it makes my head literally hurt everytime I see it.

Parcells and Belicheck got away with it because they were winning superbowls, no fan gives a single shit about what the GM is saying or doing if they are winning superbowls. This philosophy sucks if your team sucks, which is why anyone trying to use it immediately goes down in flames.

Basically if you win, no one gives a shit. If you're losing we want to know why and what are you going to do about it.

It really is that simple.

Michael Jordan has always been a huge asshole, but god damn did everyone in Chicago love him.

Deberg_1990 10-09-2012 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8995983)

he wrote that? I just assumed you did so i skipped it.

jimhitter 10-09-2012 01:36 PM

Parcells would also advise you to run some "jap plays, no disrespect".

Tophawk36 10-09-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 8995959)
How do you reconcile this with BB being a shitty coach whose nothing without Brady?

I blame Tom Brady for all the Chiefs problems. If he weren't so good all these idiots running the Chiefs wouldn't be here screwing up this team and if he didn't get hurt Cassel would still be some anonymous back up somewhere or more likely working in the real world by now instead of screwing up the Chiefs. Seriously Tom Brady should be getting a cut of all these dopes paychecks who have high paying jobs because of his success.

Amnorix 10-09-2012 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8995978)
Belichick isn't a shitty coach.

He's been completely overrated because of Tom Brady, though. For sure.


Question, which NFL coach isn't overrated because of his quarterback?

Lombardi -- Bart Starr
Landry -- Staubach
Walsh -- Montana

Frankly, you show me a multiple SB winning coach, and I'll show you EITHER a great QB or a ridiculously talented defense/run game combo (Noll, Gibbs).

Amnorix 10-09-2012 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tophawk36 (Post 8996022)
I blame Tom Brady for all the Chiefs problems. If he weren't so good all these idiots running the Chiefs wouldn't be here screwing up this team and if he didn't get hurt Cassel would still be some anonymous back up somewhere or more likely working in the real world by now instead of screwing up the Chiefs. Seriously Tom Brady should be getting a cut of all these dopes paychecks who have high paying jobs because of his success.


So a huge part of your problem is karma for YOUR OWN GUY hurting Brady in 2008? Can't say it isn't self-inflicted then, right?

Amnorix 10-09-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 8995988)
Didn't Parcells Pats beat Belichick and the Browns in the playoffs in 94?


No. Belichick's Browns won that game. Think that's the last playoff win the Browns have, now that you mention it.

DaneMcCloud 10-09-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8996434)
Question, which NFL coach isn't overrated because of his quarterback?

Lombardi -- Bart Starr
Landry -- Staubach
Walsh -- Montana

Frankly, you show me a multiple SB winning coach, and I'll show you EITHER a great QB or a ridiculously talented defense/run game combo (Noll, Gibbs).

Landry wasn't overrated due to his QB. He put a competitive team on the field for decades and while I think it was time for him to go in 1988, there's no doubt in my mind that he would have won with the early 90's Cowboys roster.

Sorter 10-09-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8996436)
So a huge part of your problem is karma for YOUR OWN GUY hurting Brady in 2008? Can't say it isn't self-inflicted then, right?

This. Pollard ****ed the Chiefs over.

ChiefGator 10-09-2012 04:36 PM

Could also be that Tom Brady is benefiting from Bill Belichick. Not like we have any other evidence to disprove that. Hell, Cassel even blossomed under Bill.

Sorter 10-09-2012 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 8996497)
Could also be that Tom Brady is benefiting from Bill Belichick. Not like we have any other evidence to disprove that. Hell, Cassel even blossomed under Bill.

It is both IMO. The two are perfect for each other. Personalities mesh well, they have genuine trust in one another, and both believe in their philosophies that helped them obtain success.

displacedinMN 10-09-2012 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8995870)
Bill Parcells never won a single playoff game without Bill Belichick on his coaching staff. He is a fat ****ing fraud.


I have said it a few times since last week.

Watched the Cleavland '95 on NFLNET last week. I think Belichek is the master of all of that. He trained all of what to do. He micromanaged everything. He had a plan.

There are a few that can pull off what he has-even though the football gods have been teasing him the last 4 years.

Without BB, few succeed. But none as well as him.

DTLB58 10-09-2012 07:45 PM

So if Haley would have stuck around and won 2 SB's but Romeo was the DC, years later it wasn't because of Haley?

Grasping at straws. We can look thru the record books and switch the numbers around lots of ways with all the fricking coaching trees that are out there now, and there are a lot out there. Bottom line is BP won 2 SB as a HC took another team to a SB and was successful in turning other franchises around from ashes. The dude could flat out coach!

If you don't like him fine, but he was good, his record says so. If he would have been with the Chiefs during that run with the Giants everyone here would have him in there F****** avatar so shut the hell up!


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