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jspchief 11-15-2012 09:55 AM
Keep in mind, the giants locker room was near mutiny in Coughlin's first year. They were trying to run him out of town. The asshole act only works in the pros when you win and win quickly.

BlackHelicopters 11-15-2012 10:15 AM
Chuck Noll was fair.

whoman69 11-15-2012 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9120657)
Chuck Noll was fair.
Nobody is fair. Jimmy Johnson said that he treated you in relation to your effort and ability. If you put forth the effort and had the ability he let it go. He gave an example of how he caught an ST player sleeping in a meeting and cut him. He said that if it was Troy Aikman he would have walked up behind him and said, "Troy, you need to wake up."

TRR 11-15-2012 01:20 PM
Hard-nosed with a bit of unpredictability typically equals success in coaching. Especially when your coaching multi-millionaires.
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TRR 11-15-2012 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 9121051)
Nobody is fair. Jimmy Johnson said that he treated you in relation to your effort and ability. If you put forth the effort and had the ability he let it go. He gave an example of how he caught an ST player sleeping in a meeting and cut him. He said that if it was Troy Aikman he would have walked up behind him and said, "Troy, you need to wake up."
Earth-shattering Jimmy.
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scho63 11-15-2012 02:21 PM
Yelling can only deliver results when it comes sporadically, not as SOP. People who yell 99% of the time to try and motivate or prove they are the boss, lose respect quickly. There are always exceptions to the rule like Bobby Knight or Woody Hayes but that was more about the legacy of the school and the program.

Any boss in my life who tried ruling by being a tyrant had the shortest and least successful career.

As people age, they respond less and less to people yelling.

loochy 11-15-2012 02:29 PM
Are most mean coaches "successful?"

NewChief 11-15-2012 05:52 PM
My sampling size is small, but if I'm judging on Bobby Petrino (mean) vs. John L. Smith (nice), I will take the asshole every day.

aturnis 11-15-2012 06:30 PM
I would say most successful coaches aren't "nice" and soft spoken.

RealSNR 11-15-2012 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 9120450)
Belichick isn't a yeller, but he's very demanding. The anecdote about Tony G catches it perfectly. Brady makes it perfectly clear that Belichick still criticizes him -- alot! But he welcomes it because nobody is perfect and they're always trying to get better. If you can't take coaching, you can't get better.

You can also see that Belichick sticks up for his players. No loss is ever on one guy, it's always about the team. The offense can roll and the defense suck, or vice versa, and it's all about how the TEAM didn't play well enough to win etc.
Does he ever accept responsibility? Even just in small statements like, "I need to coach better."

If not, then we know where Matt Cassel gets his bullshit from

hometeam 11-15-2012 06:58 PM
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xztop12 11-15-2012 07:04 PM
Well it has to do with the nature of the sport. For instance, I'm positive i'd make a good coach but I couldn't deal with seeing guys i invested effort and time into getting hurt and ruining their bodies/careers. It's the nature of the beast and you have to be somewhat cold to watch a guy you drafted and studied since HS go down with a torn ACL and call a play right after

Chief Roundup 11-15-2012 07:11 PM
Being a disciplinarian does not make a coach mean.
Disciplinarians do get more out of the team than a players coach does. Sometimes being a disciplinarian means you yell. Sometimes to get over all the noise people have to yell to be able to hear each other too. A coach that is a disciplinarian that rewards his players and of course they win will actually be more appreciated by his players in the long run.
To me it is like Dad=coach and players=children in a relationship.

DaneMcCloud 11-15-2012 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9120305)
Marty was not a prick.

He knew what buttons to push for each individual player.
Until the playoffs

DaneMcCloud 11-15-2012 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9120369)
He definately never had one like this. Todd Haley? For real? ROFL

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content...1/40765108.jpg

Yeah, too bad it didn't mean shit


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