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Mr. Flopnuts 11-30-2012 07:55 AM

So one of the podcasts guys thinks the blackout was the final nail in Pioli's coffin? I will JIMP.

007 11-30-2012 07:55 AM

Is this game getting blacked out locally or did they meet their minimum sales?

htismaqe 11-30-2012 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9163997)
So one of the podcasts guys thinks the blackout was the final nail in Pioli's coffin? I will JIMP.

Pioli's coffin has been shut for a while.

The blackout is just the public ammo Clark needed.

Much like Haley being fired last year - the Jets game wasn't the deciding factor, it was the convenient excuse.

JD10367 11-30-2012 08:02 AM

Of course all this stuff matters. None of it is "silly". There's an old Italian saying: "the fish rots from the head". It's the same for us, if we work for a clueless company and/or a shithead boss. The best situation is a great boss and success. A tolerable situation is an asshole boss and success. An unwinnable situation is an asshole boss and failure.

Pioli is a twisted fat midget with a Napoleon complex. He took only a few key ideas from Belichick and then twisted them beyond belief. The Patriots do put the team over individuals, but they do it right. They build a solid team. They identify potential stars who slip under the radar (Brady, Bruschi, Vrabel, Troy Brown, Welker). They utilize veterans who are supposedly "done" and get something out of them (Bryan Cox, Corey Dillon, Rodney Harrison, Randy Moss, Brian Waters). They hit in the draft (Gronkowski, Mayo, Law). They have a coach who players believe in (despite being an asshole) and an owner who's built a winning culture for the players, fans, and community. Pioli has no connection to this. It's like taking a longstanding famous rock band's fourth and most recent keyboardist and thinking you can recreate the band around him. "The band" is Kraft, Belichick, and Brady; Pioli is Ringo (or worse, Yoko).

Mr. Flopnuts 11-30-2012 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9164003)
Pioli's coffin has been shut for a while.

The blackout is just the public ammo Clark needed.

Much like Haley being fired last year - the Jets game wasn't the deciding factor, it was the convenient excuse.

**** I hope so. I am scared to death that he's going to be back here next year.

Mr. Flopnuts 11-30-2012 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 9164004)
Of course all this stuff matters. None of it is "silly". There's an old Italian saying: "the fish rots from the head". It's the same for us, if we work for a clueless company and/or a shithead boss. The best situation is a great boss and success. A tolerable situation is an asshole boss and success. An unwinnable situation is an asshole boss and failure.

Pioli is a twisted fat midget with a Napoleon complex. He took only a few key ideas from Belichick and then twisted them beyond belief. The Patriots do put the team over individuals, but they do it right. They build a solid team. They identify potential stars who slip under the radar (Brady, Bruschi, Vrabel, Troy Brown, Welker). They utilize veterans who are supposedly "done" and get something out of them (Bryan Cox, Corey Dillon, Rodney Harrison, Randy Moss, Brian Waters). They hit in the draft (Gronkowski, Mayo, Law). They have a coach who players believe in (despite being an asshole) and an owner who's built a winning culture for the players, fans, and community. Pioli has no connection to this. It's like taking a longstanding famous rock band's fourth and most recent keyboardist and thinking you can recreate the band around him. "The band" is Kraft, Belichick, and Brady; Pioli is Ringo (or worse, Yoko).

You know shit has hit the fan when even the Patriot fans won't stick up for him anymore. :p

htismaqe 11-30-2012 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 9164004)
Of course all this stuff matters. None of it is "silly". There's an old Italian saying: "the fish rots from the head". It's the same for us, if we work for a clueless company and/or a shithead boss. The best situation is a great boss and success. A tolerable situation is an asshole boss and success. An unwinnable situation is an asshole boss and failure.

Pioli is a twisted fat midget with a Napoleon complex. He took only a few key ideas from Belichick and then twisted them beyond belief. The Patriots do put the team over individuals, but they do it right. They build a solid team. They identify potential stars who slip under the radar (Brady, Bruschi, Vrabel, Troy Brown, Welker). They utilize veterans who are supposedly "done" and get something out of them (Bryan Cox, Corey Dillon, Rodney Harrison, Randy Moss, Brian Waters). They hit in the draft (Gronkowski, Mayo, Law). They have a coach who players believe in (despite being an asshole) and an owner who's built a winning culture for the players, fans, and community. Pioli has no connection to this. It's like taking a longstanding famous rock band's fourth and most recent keyboardist and thinking you can recreate the band around him. "The band" is Kraft, Belichick, and Brady; Pioli is Ringo (or worse, Yoko).

It's the little things that are at issue - mandating that blinds facing the field are always closed, locking people in the media room and requiring escorts to go to the bathroom, and candy wrappers in the building (incidentally, it wasn't the candy wrapper that was the issue - the candy wrapper was just evidence that somebody was using a back stairwell when they were told not to) - some people contend that bitching about those things is silly and that they don't have any effect on the product on the field.

In actuality, they DO have an effect. Like someone said earlier, they expect these players to act like robots off the field - be business-like, don't blab, etc. - but then they can't understand why they're just collecting a paycheck on the field. The answer is obvious.

AT BEST, these little things are proof that Pioli is too preoccupied with maintaining control and protecting his image to actually FIELD a good team.

JD10367 11-30-2012 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9164006)
You know shit has hit the fan when even the Patriot fans won't stick up for him anymore. :p

Most of us liked him when he was here and assumed he had some part in the winning. And maybe he did. Maybe he helped Belichick correct, say, the occasional wrong personnel choice. Given ten players, maybe Belichick alone hits on six, and with Pioli's input he hits on seven or even eight. But it's clear, as with all fruit from the Belichick Tree, that it wasn't about Pioli (or Mangini, or Weis, or McDaniel, or Crennel, or...). Pioli has displayed the inability, on his own, to be either an evaluator of talent or a leader of men. Being Belichick's lackey/assistant was as far as his abilities went. The Chiefs took a gamble on him and lost; Pioli is the Matt Cassel of GMs.

Hammock Parties 11-30-2012 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 9164004)
Pioli is a twisted fat midget with a Napoleon complex.

ROFL

Join the war on your dickhead export, Pats fans. :evil:

Hammock Parties 11-30-2012 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9164005)
**** I hope so. I am scared to death that he's going to be back here next year.

http://i.imgur.com/Kxdff.gif

Fire Me Boy! 11-30-2012 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 9163941)
Some of the things mentioned are prime examples of why we have riffs between the Chiefs and the fans. Let's take the community service thing. Not long ago, almost every starter and a lot of the 2nd stringers had some kind of community program. Brian Waters was NFL Man of the Year for that. Just about any player could walk into any bar, store, etc. and have someone thank them for what they were doing for KC. They were "our guys".
So Pioli doesn't drink or cuss. BFD! This isn't the Cleaver household, it's football. I'm not advocating he does anything different about that, but why is that even a topic?
The players are given a script for answers and they're afraid to deviate. The only time we've got anything but the company line this season is the Winston tirade. Given the subject of the tirade, that was given the seal of approval by the FO.
I could go on and on, but bottom line--this isn't our Chiefs. As long as Pioli wants robots off the field, he's going to get robots on the field. Fire Pioli and bring back the KC Way.

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htismaqe 11-30-2012 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 9164013)
Pioli is the Matt Cassel of GMs.

That is awesome!

ROFL

mdchiefsfan 11-30-2012 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 9164041)

Boom!

ARROW2 11-30-2012 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9164051)
Boom!


I don't cuss ROFL

Dave Lane 11-30-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9163914)
This is all Bernard Pollard's fault.

Brian Waters' fault

Tony Gonzalez's fault

Tyler Palko's fault

Todd Haley's fault


I see a pattern.


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