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Marcellus 09-17-2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9987199)
You didn't read the SI article did you. Its all based on Schefter's report.

So? 2 different media outlets are reporting it, you think they are just winging it?

Have you heard anyone deny this?

The report was on Countdown Sunday.

Rain Man 09-17-2013 10:18 AM

The Eagles had three picks in the first two rounds and passed on Wilson three times, and yet they "geared their whole draft around Wilson"? It sounds to me like the Eagles are revising history to their convenience.

Wilson went with the 75th pick, one selection after Scott Pioli took Donald Stephenson. The Eagles drafted DE Vinny Curry with #59, LB Mychal Kendricks with #46, and DT Fletcher Cox with #12. If you're building your whole draft around a QB, and picks 46 and 59 roll around, you're not taking LBs and DEs.

Imon Yourside 09-17-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9987218)
The Eagles had three picks in the first two rounds and passed on Wilson three times, and yet they "geared their whole draft around Wilson"? It sounds to me like the Eagles are revising history to their convenience.

Wilson went with the 75th pick, one selection after Scott Pioli took Donald Stephenson. The Eagles drafted DE Vinny Curry with #59, LB Mychal Kendricks with #46, and DT Fletcher Cox with #12. If you're building your whole draft around a QB, and picks 46 and 59 roll around, you're not taking LBs and DEs.

That seems pretty lame, dunno why everyone is reporting this then.

duncan_idaho 09-17-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9987218)
The Eagles had three picks in the first two rounds and passed on Wilson three times, and yet they "geared their whole draft around Wilson"? It sounds to me like the Eagles are revising history to their convenience.

Wilson went with the 75th pick, one selection after Scott Pioli took Donald Stephenson. The Eagles drafted DE Vinny Curry with #59, LB Mychal Kendricks with #46, and DT Fletcher Cox with #12. If you're building your whole draft around a QB, and picks 46 and 59 roll around, you're not taking LBs and DEs.

Value! Must follow the chart! Don't reach for a QB!

BossChief 09-17-2013 10:40 AM

Bunch of bull if you ask me.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 09-17-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9987252)
Bunch of bull if you ask me.

Yup.

Prison Bitch 09-17-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9987170)
Interesting, but that actually makes Philly look pretty stupid on the surface. Take him in the second round if you truly have "geared their whole draft" around Wilson.


That's precisely why this article is a sham. Nobody can believe you'd build a whole draft around a guy you won't even take in the 2nd, or trade guys/picks for in the 1st or 2nd.

The Bad Guy 09-17-2013 10:54 AM

Pretty much blows a hole in every "Kaepernick was always going to be the future" ranting from the Anti Alex Smith crowd.

Unless you're Rudy, he'll just discredit guys like Schefter, who are wrong once every 3 years.

Sandy Vagina 09-17-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9987191)
Strange, I heard all offseason Harbough didn't like Alex Smith.

See? just prior to 2011, every report was gushing with Jim loving Alex and asking him to return to SF. Then all season, Jim overly praised him. In 2012, it was more of the same.

Then when Alex was concussed... got better and was ready to come in? Jim stayed with Kaep, who was playing well.. but Alex was leading the league in passer rating and efficiency at the time of the concussion.

So then, it became a huge puzzle. Why was Jim ****ing his buddy over? Was Kaep Jim's guy all along, and Jim had to butter Alex up to keep him stop-gapping till Kaep was ready?

That's what I came to believe... even though there seemed to be a legitimate brotherhood between Alex and Jim.

Any smart 49ers here that have an insight to help?

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 09-17-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9987277)
Pretty much blows a hole in every "Kaepernick was always going to be the future" ranting from the Anti Alex Smith crowd.

Unless you're Rudy, he'll just discredit guys like Schefter, who are wrong once every 3 years.

It's the sources I don't trust, dumbass. This doesn't at all make sense.

Mav 09-17-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9987191)
Strange, I heard all offseason Harbough didn't like Alex Smith.

I am absolutely convinced that Jim Harbaugh is a prisoner of the moment type......The more I think about it, if Alex Smith had not gotten that concussion, then Kaep is probably the one traded in the offseason and not Alex Smith.

Jakemall 09-17-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9987191)
Strange, I heard all offseason Harbough didn't like Alex Smith.

That's because all the haters wanted to think that and there was nothing to suggest otherwise.

I'd like to point out that Alex and Harbaugh made a point of seeking eachother out in the pre-season game. Before everyone goes around saying what a great guy Alex is for putting his pride aside and being the bigger man, Alex never bothered with Nolan or Singletary...despite his comments that he harbored no ill will towards either.

Mav 09-17-2013 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9987277)
Pretty much blows a hole in every "Kaepernick was always going to be the future" ranting from the Anti Alex Smith crowd.

Unless you're Rudy, he'll just discredit guys like Schefter, who are wrong once every 3 years.

Well, im not exactly an Anti Alex Smith guy.

And I too believe that Kaep was Jims guy, and that is backed up by what Jim told his dad the night after the first round was completed in 2011, about Kaep not only being the best qb in the draft class, but also being the best FOOTBALL PLAYER period.

Still.....Stunning that they would of had an offer on the table for Kaep.

just makes me take a step back and actually softens my stance on how much I felt that Jim had betrayed Alex Smith.

swayy07 09-17-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9987201)
It's the Bernard Pollard Space/Time Continuum Theorum being applied to game changing QB's once again. This shit is CRAZY.

someone needs to do the 6 degrees of tom brady's knee getting blown out by pollard just to see how big of an effect it had on other teams.

Jakemall 09-17-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9987278)
See? just prior to 2011, every report was gushing with Jim loving Alex and asking him to return to SF. Then all season, Jim overly praised him. In 2012, it was more of the same.

Then when Alex was concussed... got better and was ready to come in? Jim stayed with Kaep, who was playing well.. but Alex was leading the league in passer rating and efficiency at the time of the concussion.

So then, it became a huge puzzle. Why was Jim ****ing his buddy over? Was Kaep Jim's guy all along, and Jim had to butter Alex up to keep him stop-gapping till Kaep was ready?

That's what I came to believe... even though there seemed to be a legitimate brotherhood between Alex and Jim.

Any smart 49ers here that have an insight to help?

That's pretty much where I'm at. With nothing to present as evidence, I've gone with the flow as far as "Kaep was always his guy". Just figured that Harbaugh was full of it and not to be trusted. It fit in perfectly with the whole Manning episode.

If it were true, why would Alex bother to go hang with him during the pre-season game like nothing happened? Maybe there was a push from Baalke?

How good is the source?


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