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FRCDFED 11-14-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 10186262)
I agree. I don't wanna hear anymore about this shit. He better start firing that ball toward wr's in the end zone or our nice season will be wasted.

In those bits of film not only do the WR have separation but are WIDE open. Those arent even risky passes. IMO those are blown reads or Smith's own lack of confidence in his abilities. Those are 10 yard windows to place the ball.

Mile High Mania 11-14-2013 09:11 AM

Yes, Alex... open it up on Sunday. You are the QB, you throw the ball. Make it happen.

Red Dawg 11-14-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 10186277)
Yes, Alex... open it up on Sunday. You are the QB, you throw the ball. Make it happen.

Go away douche bag. Here is the problem you have. Manning is gimpy now and the season is far from over. If not this game then in another game he will get taken out and miss time. That will ruin your SB dreams as your team is completely dependent on him. At least ours is not so dependent on one side of the ball. We can still win with our defense and ground game. Manning will turn out to be a 40 million dollar waste of money. Getting there is not enough. Only champs matter in pro sports. If your not first then your last.

loochy 11-14-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 10186305)
Only champs matter in pro sports. If your you're not first then your you're last.

You do know that this argument makes us look worse than the broncos, right?

Also, I FYP. Check out this link: http://www.grammar-monster.com/easil...youre_your.htm

RealSNR 11-14-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 10186277)
Yes, Alex... open it up on Sunday. You are the QB, you throw the ball. Make it happen.

Manning's gonna throw his share of picks, too, bud. You also might want to keep the ball out of Montee Ball's hands. We'll force some fumbles if he gets it.

Molitoth 11-14-2013 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 10186270)
Anyone that watches the games in person has seen this all year. The no separation argument is total bullshit.

Look, I like what Alex has brought to the team...especially after where we were last year. But at the same time, the guy has got to take some shots. I think he'll do that this week because he knows he has to, but they have been there all season. In the Texans game, I lost count of how many times Bowe, Avery, McCluster, and even Jenkins were literally UNCOVERED over the top.

:thumb:

I agree, nice post.

Dartgod 11-14-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 10186305)
Go away douche bag. Here is the problem you have. Manning is gimpy now and the season is far from over. If not this game then in another game he will get taken out and miss time. That will ruin your SB dreams as your team is completely dependent on him. At least ours is not so dependent on one side of the ball. We can still win with our defense and ground game. Manning will turn out to be a 40 million dollar waste of money. Getting there is not enough. Only champs matter in pro sports. If your not first then your last.

So far this season, our success has been clearly dependent on our defense.

Mile High Mania 11-14-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10186346)
Manning's gonna throw his share of picks, too, bud. You also might want to keep the ball out of Montee Ball's hands. We'll force some fumbles if he gets it.

Honestly, I don't trust any of our RBs - they all like to fumble. Moreno found his way to the doghouse because of fumbles. I've feared all year that they would begin to trust him more and more, and they are... So far, he hasn't screwed up and I have stated over and over again that he won't until it matters most.

That concerns me about this game. I'm fine with none of our RBs getting more than a dozen touches in a game. I'd like to see more from CJ Anderson quite honestly. Hillman better be non-existant, that guy really has butterfingers.


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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 10186360)
So far this season, our success has been clearly dependent on our defense.

Shhh, much like Blutarski in Animal House ... let him go, he's on a roll.

DJ's left nut 11-14-2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 10186168)
This makes Smith look like a scaredy cat. We will not win in Denver unless he pulls the trigger on longer throws. He must know this and coaches know it for sure. If they watch film all the time then why the hell is it not getting better? He must have zero confidence in his ability to get the ball there on target.

There's no question he's watching the rush.

That's why he's skittish, that's why he's abandoning routes. His eyes are on the wrong level - watching the line of scrimmage and working backwards from there.

His fortitude in the pocket right now worries the hell out of me. It's not that I think he's too scared to throw it 15 yards downfield, I think the line is in his head and he's not willing to stand in and wait for those throws to develop. He's essentially looking for the first opportunity to get that ball the hell out of his hands or scramble where he can at least see the guys that are trying to hit him.

Ultimately the shell-shock he seems to have developed over the first 6-8 weeks will be his undoing. He needs to quit that shit, stand in there and make the play.

duncan_idaho 11-14-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10186386)
There's no question he's watching the rush.

That's why he's skittish, that's why he's abandoning routes. His eyes are on the wrong level - watching the line of scrimmage and working backwards from there.

His fortitude in the pocket right now worries the hell out of me. It's not that I think he's too scared to throw it 15 yards downfield, I think the line is in his head and he's not willing to stand in and wait for those throws to develop. He's essentially looking for the first opportunity to get that ball the hell out of his hands or scramble where he can at least see the guys that are trying to hit him.

Ultimately the shell-shock he seems to have developed over the first 6-8 weeks will be his undoing. He needs to quit that shit, stand in there and make the play.

Only problem with this... is that the same critiques have been tied to Alex Smith over the past couple of years.

I imagine the poor line play is in his head a bit... but this is also who he is.

Halfcan 11-14-2013 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 10186178)
A pick play is a pick play. So what exactly is a barely legal pick play?

A complete illegal play the chiefs will see again and again-because the NFL wants manning to win- he brings a lot of cash into the business.

DJ's left nut 11-14-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10186395)
Only problem with this... is that the same critiques have been tied to Alex Smith over the past couple of years.

I imagine the poor line play is in his head a bit... but this is also who he is.

Oh there's some truth to that as well.

But the old saw used to be "look at how many sacks he takes, he holds onto the ball way too long!!!"

I don't see that at all. I see a guy that's constantly looking to get rid of the ball or get the hell out of the pocket. He's still always going to be someone that would prefer throw the short passes to the long ones, but he's not naturally gunshy; he used to be pretty confident back there in holding onto the football. When he's confident in the pocket, I think he'll make the easy passes downfield. Right now, he's scared back there so he's not even looking at the easy ones downfield; he bails way too soon on the routes and next thing you know he's on the run or has foolishly rolled out of the pocket to cut down half his field.

He used to be risk-averse; if the deep throw wasn't wide open, he's not going to make it. What I'm seeing now is someone that doesn't even get to risk averse, he's just playing scared. That was absolutely not a knock against him in SF.

Red Dawg 11-14-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 10186360)
So far this season, our success has been clearly dependent on our defense.

Our defense is bad ass and I said one man. We are not solely dependent on Smith the way they are on Manning is my point. We are not completely dependent on a passing game. JC, st and defense is how we have won so far. If we lost Smith for a few games we could still wini. If they lost Manning they would not.

loochy 11-14-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 10186462)
Our defense is bad ass and I said one man. We are not solely dependent on Smith the way they are on Manning is my point. We are not completely dependent on a passing game. JC, st and defense is how we have won so far. If we lost Smith for a few games we could still wini. If they lost Manning they would not.

if we lost charles we would not

Molitoth 11-14-2013 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10186466)
if we lost charles we would not

Depends. Maybe Alex would be forced to utilize his other weapons and stop relying on the RB checkdown so often.


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