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unlurking 11-17-2013 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10200584)
Exactly.

We win off turnovers, defensive pts, and QB pressure.

To play a conservative D gameplan takes away all that...

Again, bullshit. The offense needs to put points on the board. We've gone from the exact opposite of blaming Trent Green for not scoring 40 points to blaming the defense because they didn't put points on the board.

unlurking 11-17-2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10200608)
That doesn't matter.

You understand that, right? Holding Denver down doesn't matter if we don't score over 21.

THE DEFENSE HAD TO CREATE POINTS.

HAD TO.

There was absolutely no chance of winning this game without turnovers, sacks, and winning field position...

And that's ****ing bullshit to ask the defense to score points because our offense can't. Do you understand the job the offense is supposed to do and the job the defense is supposed to do?!

Rausch 11-17-2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 10200599)
Youre focusing on the Defense. This loss is not on our Defense.

You're right - it's on the D coordinator.

Slowing Denver was never going to win this game.

We absolutely HAD to have turnovers and likely a Defensive/ST TD to win.

You create those - they don't happen playing safe...

Rausch 11-17-2013 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 10200612)
Again, bullshit. The offense needs to put points on the board.

THEY AREN'T GOING TO.

What part of this do you not understand?

Alex is what he is. Our O line is what it is.

Andy's play calling is what it is.

IT WILL NOT CHANGE.

PERIOD.

It must be overcome...

unlurking 11-17-2013 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10200624)
You're right - it's on the D coordinator.

Slowing Denver was never going to win this game.

We absolutely HAD to have turnovers and likely a Defensive/ST TD to win.

You create those - they don't happen playing safe...

The ONLY reason we needed that was because our offense couldn't do their job. THEIR JOB IS TO SCORE ****ING POINTS.

unlurking 11-17-2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10200637)
THEY AREN'T GOING TO.

What part of this do you not understand?

Alex is what he is. Our O line is what it is.

Andy's play calling is what it is.

IT WILL NOT CHANGE.

PERIOD.

It must be overcome...

Hahahahahahahahaha!

It must be overcome?!?!?!

OK. See you next season.

Rausch 11-17-2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 10200623)
And that's ****ing bullshit to ask the defense to score points because our offense can't.

It's our only chance to win.

Is it fair for Denver to expect the offense to score 30 every week to win?

No, but they know what they have to do and they do it. They know what they are and that's how they play.

stevieray 11-17-2013 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 10200642)
The ONLY reason we needed that was because our offense couldn't do their job. THEIR JOB IS TO SCORE ****ING POINTS.

The defense's job is to get after the QB...both are equally important.

Rausch 11-17-2013 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 10200659)
The defense's job is to get after the QB...both are equally important.

We don't have a QB.

That makes our defense even more important...

KC_Connection 11-17-2013 11:30 PM

Yeah, a lot of fans have overlooked just how bad Reid's offense with Alex Smith has been so far. It needs to improve if this team intends to do anything meaningful.

unlurking 11-17-2013 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10200653)
It's our only chance to win.

Is it fair for Denver to expect the offense to score 30 every week to win?

No, but they know what they have to do and they do it. They know what they are and that's how they play.

JFC. We aren't going to win that way. Not games that matter anyway. Might as well line 'em up to play iron man football. Expecting our defense to outscore Peyton Manning is about as dumb as you can get it.

Iowanian 11-17-2013 11:30 PM

This game just proved what most realistic people seem to already understand.

The interior of the offensive line is weak sauce...
The WR's are limited in depth and talent
The Quarterback is adequate but the Chiefs will never win a game BECAUSE of him.

The Chiefs are good enough to beat Denver at home....which proves that they HAVE to win home field advantage to be more than a wet fart in the playoffs.

Rausch 11-17-2013 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 10200687)
JFC. We aren't going to win that way. Not games that matter anyway. Might as well line 'em up to play iron man football. Expecting our defense to outscore Peyton Manning is about as dumb as you can get it.

Our defense isn't supposed to out score manning you tard.

It's supposed to hurry him, hit him, sack him, intercept him, force fumbles.

YOU HAVE TO CONSISTENTLY COME AFTER HIM to do that.

It's not a secret. Manning is going to get big plays no matter what type of D you play so you might as well hurry him, hit him, and make him pay...

unlurking 11-17-2013 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 10200659)
The defense's job is to get after the QB...both are equally important.

No, the defense's job was to stop Denver from scoring points. Something they did better than the other 9 teams Denver faced, including the team that beat them. They did their job, only allowing 17 points through three quarters while our offense choked itself to death. Again.

Bl00dyBizkitz 11-17-2013 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10200637)
THEY AREN'T GOING TO.

What part of this do you not understand?

Alex is what he is. Our O line is what it is.

Andy's play calling is what it is.

IT WILL NOT CHANGE.

PERIOD.

It must be overcome...

Saying that our Offense can't and won't change is an absolute shit reason to overtly blame the Defense that held Denver to 27.


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