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notorious 02-02-2014 10:20 PM

Seattle is LOADED.

The exception is not the rule.

O.city 02-02-2014 10:21 PM

It basically comes down to, if you pay a QB that much, the margins become super thin and it basically makes it so that the QB you pay that much has to play to that level, all the time.

There are very few QB's in history who can do that AND beat great teams while doing that.

Oregon chief 02-02-2014 10:22 PM

So does Elway now hold the record for most SB losses?

O.city 02-02-2014 10:25 PM

I'm curious as to what the Seahawks (and 9ers) do when it comes time to pay up for some of these guys.

Sofa King 02-02-2014 10:26 PM

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--ekR6jG4Iw...hicken-gif.gif

HonestChieffan 02-02-2014 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10410256)
Peyton + pressure = Poopy

Perfect

chiefzilla1501 02-02-2014 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10410254)
Due to the wear and tear on the position, you just don't want to invest high amounts of resources into it.

Good RB play isn't winning any of those teams SB's alone.

It's just becoming more and more obvious that team building is alot easier when you don't have a QB taking up 13-16 % of your money.

Good RBs are not hard to find. There is no excuse for teams not to have 2 or 3 RBs on the roster, and most can be found through the draft.

But there is no excuse for the Steelers to surround Big Ben with Jonathan Dwyer. You saw what a huge difference it made when Laveon Bell was finally healthy. The Steelers' struggles were not because Ben got a massive contract. It's because they completely whiffed on the RB. I would bet that one effective RB draft pick would turn the Giants around too.

-King- 02-02-2014 10:31 PM

Cliff notes needed. And cliff notes of those cliff notes are needed also.

O.city 02-02-2014 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10410294)
Good RBs are not hard to find. There is no excuse for teams not to have 2 or 3 RBs on the roster, and most can be found through the draft.

But there is no excuse for the Steelers to surround Big Ben with Jonathan Dwyer. You saw what a huge difference it made when Laveon Bell was finally healthy. The Steelers' struggles were not because Ben got a massive contract. It's because they completely whiffed on the RB. I would bet that one effective RB draft pick would turn the Giants around too.

A simple RB isn't turning around those teams. They've got alot of problems defensively and depth wise, which is a direct result of the QBs inflated contract.

Good running games would obviously help take some strain off the QB's, but with that contract, the QB is just going to have to do more.

RunKC 02-02-2014 10:36 PM

I'd rather pay for pass rushers as they have proven to have more of an effect on winning SB's lately.

ChiefGator 02-03-2014 04:52 AM

I don't understand your numbers... is that from a chart somewhere that is easier to read?

chiefzilla1501 02-03-2014 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10410312)
A simple RB isn't turning around those teams. They've got alot of problems defensively and depth wise, which is a direct result of the QBs inflated contract.

Good running games would obviously help take some strain off the QB's, but with that contract, the QB is just going to have to do more.

A simple running back turned the Steelers from one of the worst teams in the league, to one of the hottest teams in the second half.

A simple running back, if you look at Eli's last Super Bowl, turned that team from a struggling bubble playoff team to a Super Bowl winner (Ahmad Bradshaw came on really strong late that year).

What was Ray Rice's YPC this year? A lousy 3.1.

htismaqe 02-03-2014 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10410322)
I'd rather pay for pass rushers as they have proven to have more of an effect on winning SB's lately.

The Seahawks don't win like that without pretty exceptional play from Wilson.

It's about building a TEAM, which you can't do when you're paying a QB $125M...

Mile High Mania 02-03-2014 08:19 AM

It will be interesting to see what they do when it's contract time with many of these guys. They built a good nucleus quickly and at the right price. The new cap for rookies was played well.

Mile High Mania 02-03-2014 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10410711)
The Seahawks don't win like that without pretty exceptional play from Wilson.

It's about building a TEAM, which you can't do when you're paying a QB $125M...

4 yrs at 2.99m is his contract and he's at the halfway mark... wonder what happens next. Safe to say he's earned a bit of a raise.


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