Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10424327)

Read my post again.

I said we need more impact than a DEFENSIVE END. I then asked which OLB.

Ford and Ealy likely gone before 23, IMO. I think Murphy is going to fall at the combine (as you suggested).

I agree with you that OLB is the most important position on defense. And I don't think there will be one there when we pick. I'm not reaching for a guy like Murphy when there might be 2 or 3 quality WRs or a possible stud pass-catching TE sitting there.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10424340)

Read my post again. DE is one of the most important positions in the 3-4.

As for Ford and Ealy... we'll see. Kiper talks to as many NFL teams as anyone, and right now they're both low-firsts. That could very well change -- as Murphy could, too. When they do, I probably will as well.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10424372)

It's not about generating sacks. It's about getting push and pushing the QB from his spot. And, of course, shutting down the run, as TJax has done a good job of doing.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10424382)

Yes, "yet another." When we've spent 1st rounders at the 5-tech position exactly once since we made the switch, 5 years ago.

Once Tyson Jackson walks, we will have only 1 first round talent on our DL. That's now how Super Bowl defenses are typically built, Seahawks be damned. You don't go with "value" for your DL. You go with elite talent.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10424388)

You're assuming Tyson Jackson is going to walk, first of all.

And second, that's not a position that requires a first round pick.

Third, what elite talent? ROFL

Stop bringing up the Seahawks. They're LOADED at every position, and they have playmakers at every level.

This team has precious few playmakers at ANY level. We need playmakers.

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10424390)

Brandin Cooks is Steve Smith? Please and thanks.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10424443)

If a player has potential to be a playmaker at DE in our d, it's worth the pick

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10424446)

If a player IS a playmaker at WR or TE, he's more worth the pick.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10424450)

With Alex Smith at qb and the way Andy Reid's offense works, I don't think you have to have premium talent at this positions, but I definitely makes it better to have it.

I think a playmaker on the DL is more valuable than anything other than a playmaker at qb.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10424448)

Hageman and Tuitt are great prospects. Lots of upside.

But once again, Chiefsplanet has turned them into "elite talent" before they've played a single ****ing down.