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Chief_For_Life58 05-22-2014 06:32 PM
are we ahead or behind the filter?

loochy 05-22-2014 06:33 PM
that was a fun read

Chief_For_Life58 05-22-2014 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 10645924)
Yeah. After reading that and the stuff before it I thought, if we're the first, we would definitely claim everything for ourselves. We would be the predators. That's how it is now on Earth.

Then I basically surmised that if we were to be the big bully, if there was someone before us, they would almost certainly be the same bully.
the native american Christopher Columbus analogy

Buck 05-22-2014 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 10645925)
are we ahead or behind the filter?
I think it's possible that it's both. Maybe not "The Great Filter," but I don't see why there can't be multiple filters that kill 99.9% of life each time they are approached.

loochy 05-22-2014 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage (Post 10645921)
I'm not sure why they need to find planets Humans could have survived on. Life finds a way under bizarre circumstances. Even Humans as they exist are only around due to ancestors surviving hard to imagine catastrophes.
I always think that is weird too. Life could develop anywhere. Why does it have to have water and moderate temperatures?

Buck 05-22-2014 06:42 PM
It would be cool to make a poll of every single scenario including God Put Us Here and see how CP would vote.

GloucesterChief 05-22-2014 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 10645924)
Yeah. After reading that and the stuff before it I thought, if we're the first, we would definitely claim everything for ourselves. We would be the predators. That's how it is now on Earth.

Then I basically surmised that if we were to be the big bully, if there was someone before us, they would almost certainly be the same bully.
Its a trap. We lure them here, beat them up, and take their stuff. :thumb:

Halfcan 05-22-2014 06:47 PM
It is impossible to know everything there is to know. If you wanted to store all the information on all the galaxies out there-it would take a super computer-so big and so heavy-it would actually sink down into the fabric of space and create a black hole. This black hole would be so huge it would suck everything into it and stretch it into particles. Thus making it impossible to harness all the knowledge out there.

Marcellus 05-22-2014 06:49 PM
Well shit.

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-22-2014 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 10645955)
It is impossible to know everything there is to know. If you wanted to store all the information on all the galaxies out there-it would take a super computer-so big and so heavy-it would actually sink down into the fabric of space and create a black hole. This black hole would be so huge it would suck everything into it and stretch it into particles. Thus making it impossible to harness all the knowledge out there.

Sorry, but that's just dumb !

Halfcan 05-22-2014 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 10645962)
Sorry, but that's just dumb !
Tell that to Stephen Hawking.

And really it is not. Some of the computers trying to do Quantum Physics calculations could fill a mall. Look how big the computers use to be a few decades ago- and that was just to balance your checkbook. When you are talking about problems involving numbers that will circle the earth 100,000 times-you are talking about giant computers- now times that by the entire knowledge in All universes. Impossible.

DaFace 05-22-2014 07:09 PM
A point made by Cosmos in a recent episode is that we're not only dealing with a challenge of space, but also of time. In other words, the math says that there should be a ton of other planets with life on them, but what's to say that life hasn't already come and gone on most of them? If it turns out that there just isn't a way to go faster than the speed of light, it's entirely plausible that we just won't have anyone else close enough and at the right point in time to find anything out there.

Halfcan 05-22-2014 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 10645918)
the part where the article was talking about how other intelligent lifeforms don't broadcast throughout the universe cus a possible predator species could hear and come and rape them was mind blowing


yea we should probably stop doing that
Even if we did-the signals we sent are still going. We will probably blow ourselves up before it reaches another species that would want to come investigate the origin.

Halfcan 05-22-2014 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10645995)
A point made by Cosmos in a recent episode is that we're not only dealing with a challenge of space, but also of time. In other words, the math says that there should be a ton of other planets with life on them, but what's to say that life hasn't already come and gone on most of them? If it turns out that there just isn't a way to go faster than the speed of light, it's entirely plausible that we just won't have anyone else close enough and at the right point in time to find anything out there.
Wormholes? These would actually bend the fabric of the universe-thus suspending time would it not?

Buck 05-22-2014 07:16 PM
I wish we (as a species) would put as much effort into exploring beyond Earth as we do trying to be as rich and powerful as possible.


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