Originally Posted by Flybone McTimmerson (Post 10806159)

He was brought in to give a pass rush from the DE spot. Have the other guys really shown so much that he's not making it on the field in that spot? I find it hard to believe he can't offer more of a pass rush than Devito, even with Devito slimming down.

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10806236)

and what has Vance Walker shown? that he played on a depleted bad Raiders team? That some guy from Englands analytics make him look good? So when that stupid website favors a Chiefs player it's a good metric to use but when the website doesn't favor a Chiefs player it sucks? That makes sense. The only reason you even know he's a good pass rusher is from PFF. Otherwise he's a nobody from a worse team than the Chiefs that we probably overpaid for in FA.

I'll take the homegrown draft pick talent (Cat, Bailey) or the cheap scrap heap find (Howard) or the known veteran (Devito) over that any day.

Why can't those in house DEs be better than him? Because they didn't get 12 million from our GM in FA?

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10806562)

Hef is pimping a current Chief and former Raider.

Now I've seen it all..

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10806236)

and what has Vance Walker shown? that he played on a depleted bad Raiders team? That some guy from Englands analytics make him look good? So when that stupid website favors a Chiefs player it's a good metric to use but when the website doesn't favor a Chiefs player it sucks? That makes sense. The only reason you even know he's a good pass rusher is from PFF. Otherwise he's a nobody from a worse team than the Chiefs that we probably overpaid for in FA.

I'll take the homegrown draft pick talent (Cat, Bailey) or the cheap scrap heap find (Howard) or the known veteran (Devito) over that any day.

Why can't those in house DEs be better than him? Because they didn't get 12 million from our GM in FA?

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 10806524)

He has more career sacks than every other DE in the roster combined, and that's with being in the league for less time than DeVito.

Providing interior pass rush is what his role has been so far both in Atlanta and Oakland. It's not like he's Sapp or Watt, but yes, his career so far shows that he is a better pass rusher than any other DE on the roster.

Apparently, though, he's not as good as some guy named Jaye Howard, who I don't think I've ever even heard of before.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10806803)

I think they just honestly plan on playing Poe 85% of the snaps again.

That, and if he goes down, I bet DeVito goes to nose.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10806830)

I think they saw the lack of receivers and the collapse of the passrush (along with Hali's imminent departure) as the primary concerns. They saw replacing Tyson Jackson and Brandon Flowers as their secondary concern.

If it weren't for the historic cluster**** that was the Emmanuel Sanders deal, he'd be in Chiefs red right now. The Chiefs likely wanted to go WR in the 1st, but the guy they probably wanted (Brandin Cooks is an Andy Reid receiver if ever there was one) went a couple picks before #23. So they went with Dee Ford as the passrush plug.

They landed Vance Walker in free agency, and figured the development of Allen Bailey and Mike Catapano would give them options. They are clearly counting on Marcus Cooper to help replace Flowers, and the Chiefs brought on Chris Owens and Phillip Gaines to boost their CB corps for Flowers' incoming departure.

So they did move to plug those holes, but yeah, they totally ****ing missed on WR, and it's not remotely clear that they even considered bringing in a NT. They literally never did until days before training camp.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10806952)

They didn't try shit, except with Sanders.

They used the draft to plug holes that they plan to create.