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GordonGekko 09-13-2014 02:08 PM

A great QB makes everyone's lives easier, you can actually spend a little bit less on the offense if you have a great QB and can use that savings on the defense because a great QB compensates on the offense. This is a huge economic reality in today's NFL. The apparent disinterest the Chiefs have in drafting in a high round and developing a QB in the past 30+ years is alarming, and it is not surprising they have not even been to let alone win a Superbowl in that time frame.

Disappointing.

RealSNR 09-13-2014 02:10 PM

We were the closest under Vermeil and Marty, but just because they had their shortcomings doesn't mean they're responsible for our lack of SB trophies. Perhaps you could make the argument that they're two of the biggest reasons why we don't have any playoff wins in 20 years, but not Super Bowls.

If I had to name the biggest culprit, I blame poorly constructed teams built by GMs and coaches with a lack of testicles and too much trust in their philosophies and personnel. That covers the Vermeil and Marty teams with glaring weaknesses, but also the organization's unwillingness to try to put in our own real ****ing QB. Also, the people who sucked at their jobs weren't fired quickly enough, which includes players and coaches alike.

And for that, you can probably blame Lamar Hunt for being too loyal, which trickled down in the organization from his leadership.

Clark is a bit less like his father, but he's kind of clueless.

In58men 09-13-2014 02:10 PM

Obvious answer is obvious

Kaepernick 09-13-2014 02:13 PM

Incomplete poll is incomplete.

Owner doesn't want it bad enough.

GordonGekko 09-13-2014 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10908176)
We were the closest under Vermeil and Marty, but just because they had their shortcomings doesn't mean they're responsible for our lack of SB trophies. Perhaps you could make the argument that they're two of the biggest reasons why we don't have any playoff wins in 20 years, but not Super Bowls.

If I had to name the biggest culprit, I blame poorly constructed teams built by GMs and coaches with a lack of testicles and too much trust in their philosophies and personnel. That covers the Vermeil and Marty teams with glaring weaknesses, but also the organization's unwillingness to try to put in our own real ****ing QB. Also, the people who sucked at their jobs weren't fired quickly enough, which includes players and coaches alike.

And for that, you can probably blame Lamar Hunt for being too loyal, which trickled down in the organization from his leadership.

Clark is a bit less like his father, but he's kind of clueless.

But just like San Diego realized after a few seasons, Marty style football makes you think you are close to a championship, but in reality you are so so far away, like as far away as teams that didn't make the playoffs that year. Marty never brought a 'killer' and dangerous team into the playoffs, just teams that played 'not to lose.'

Vermeil probably had us the closest we have been. An offense that could easily hang 40 on anyone. If he had stayed a little bit longer who knows what could have happened.

GordonGekko 09-13-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 10908181)
Incomplete poll is incomplete.

Owner doesn't want it bad enough.

I don't doubt Chunt desire, I actually doubt his savvy and football IQ. I just don't think he knows what he is doing, an example of this is bringing in two horrible GM's back to back (Pioli and Dorsey). His apparent lack of football brilliance is crippling the organization.

ChiefsCountry 09-13-2014 02:21 PM

Chiefs don't want to draft a quarterback because they are scared to death of failure. All they see in their heads is the 80s when they tired it twice. They don't want that again, they just want to be nice and safe around 8-8 at least to keep butts in the seats plain and simple.

hometeam 09-13-2014 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 10908137)
I actually think luck is one of the biggest reasons. I voted option 1, but I'm not sure that's the biggest reason. There are a lot of QBs that CP would love and consider stud QBS like Cutler, Stafford, and Rivers but they haven't win shit either

Luck isn't real. Kind of like Santa Claus or the bogeyman.

Luck as a CONCEPT exists, and mathematical chance exists, but one person, or entity having more inherent "luck" than others? Nope~

GordonGekko 09-13-2014 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10908195)
Chiefs don't want to draft a quarterback because they are scared to death of failure. All they see in their heads is the 80s when they tired it twice. They don't want that again, they just want to be nice and safe around 8-8 at least to keep butts in the seats plain and simple.

8-8.. is still failure.

Tribal Warfare 09-13-2014 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10908191)
I don't doubt Chunt desire, I actually doubt his savvy and football IQ. I just don't think he knows what he is doing, an example of this is bringing in two horrible GM's back to back (Pioli and Dorsey). His apparent lack of football brilliance is crippling the organization.


He's more of a fútbol fan

RealSNR 09-13-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10908185)
But just like San Diego realized after a few seasons, Marty style football makes you think you are close to a championship, but in reality you are so so far away, like as far away as teams that didn't make the playoffs that year. Marty never brought a 'killer' and dangerous team into the playoffs, just teams that played 'not to lose.'

Vermeil probably had us the closest we have been. An offense that could easily hang 40 on anyone. If he had stayed a little bit longer who knows what could have happened.

Same thing that happened to Herm.

Roaf and Shields would have retired, our defense would continue to struggle (perhaps even moreso than it did), and Trent Green would become feeble and unable to properly run the offense.

Only thing that Vermeil would have done better is manage Larry Johnson in such a way that would get him more effective ways of carrying the ball, so that the weapon he was in the second half of 2005 would continue through 2006 and 2007.

In any case, still no playoff win.

Red Dawg 09-13-2014 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 10908144)
Because you are the Chiefs.

GO AWAY!

rico 09-13-2014 02:54 PM

Hunt family.

Coochie liquor 09-13-2014 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 10908154)
Uh, the Chiefs have won the super bowl.

This! Wtf is wrong with these so called fans??

Rausch 09-13-2014 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 10908162)
This would mean that there is only one reason. That is simply not the case.

This...


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